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Y&R: Josh Griffith steps down as head writer

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14 minutes ago, skiman12082004 said:

His departure is definitely celebrated. Hopefully, he leaves the industry all together. He needs to reevaluate because this last tenure was beyond abysmal.

I bet the Writers Guild of America Awards are regretting the recent Y&R win. 😬

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    -- Sally Sussman's stuff was very slow, but the character writing was strong, and I prefer her in a heartbeat to anything Josh Griffith gave us. I can ignore her interviews and pathetic husband when I

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5 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I bet the Writers Guild of America Awards are regretting the recent Y&R win. 😬

Well, JG didn't win the recent WGA award, only the rest of the Y&R writing staff won. He's ficore so cannot get WGA awards.
Edit to add: but I see what you mean, since they were still his story ideas.

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If they were to from within the current writing team, then James Harmon Brown is the only one with any previous HW-ing experience. 😖

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34 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

You lost me on this one. What role do you see them in?

I never cared for the Newmans as the show's leading family and I hated that they replaced the Abbotts in many ways. John Abbott was a very warm presence, I see Victor as Y&R version of Donald Trump and I feel that Nikki got more focus than she deserved because of Edward Scott. Katherine was never a matriarch but she had a very special place in Genoa City. In my eyes Nikki would have worked in a similar role. Perhaps as an older, bitter woman.

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21 hours ago, Taoboi said:

(Sussman) who I know I was in the minority in her brief run. This time I would hope she would be ready if it is true she came in with no time to prepare a proper bible.

10 hours ago, Chris B said:

Now since I see comments about past regimes I'm going to give my defense of Sally Sussman. When she took over with no notice and no story bible or plans, it was obviously slow. With that said, the way the characters were written was like night and day. It was like a snap of the fingers and everybody was suddenly written in character again. I do think with time she developed a strong show but it was just too soon to fire her. She didn't even get a full year if I remember correctly.

I feel like if Mal Young had worked with her instead of firing her, they could've been a dream team. His punchier story ideas mixed with her knowledge of the characters and tone of the show would've been magic. I just think it's a shame they didn't give her a full two years.

7 hours ago, Aback said:

SSM’s last tenure on the show was the lasts time I was watching daily.

Yeah it was slow and low stakes (for weeks Nikki was simply afraid of playing the piano lol), so I roll my eyes at her interview about the stakes. Also aging the Ashbys kids was a mistake. Would I have preferred KA as HW? Yes. But still I recognized the show and enjoyed it.

5 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Sally Sussman's stuff was very slow, but the character writing was strong, and I prefer her in a heartbeat to anything Josh Griffith gave us. I can ignore her interviews and pathetic husband when I judge her HW stint, which was decent.

-- I wasn't a Mal Young fan. I never felt he really cared about the show. He didn't cherish it, and was cavalier about change for the sake of change.


I agree that Sussman made the show feel like home after the nonstop action of Pratt and whatever Mal Young was doing. I really appreciated that she brought back the simple ritual of the adult Abbott siblings all eating breakfast together in the dining room, like they had done with John. I realize that's not a "storyline" in itself, but it helped to frame the show, and make it feel like home again. There were other essences of characters she understood. As she said in her exit interview, she wasn't used to the expectations of modern soap viewers; and as some have said, she didn't have strong storyline pacing. I do agree it would have been better to hire someone with a storyline bible, instead of having to make her wing it --- and if that were possible, then maybe she would have succeeded then, or could succeed in the future. But it seemed from her exit interview that she wouldn't want to do soaps again unless she could do more meaningful storylines and not soap tropes.

I do have an issue with Sussman's husband Tony Morina being sued for sexual harassment, and I wonder how she felt about that. I felt it icky that Julie Chen stood by Les Moovnes. Sussman never made a statement, so I have no idea how she felt. I don't blame her for her husband; but I wonder what her thoughts were.

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23 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Given what a hack Brad Bell is and what a hack his daughter in law was, I question any involvement from that family.

You have a point. Bradley did not inherit his father's talent and MAB tried but failed to match Bill Bell's vision.

23 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

But again, who is left to take this show and actually wants it?

So true.

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20 hours ago, Darn said:

It's kind of insane that our options are the retired and elderly or someone brand new

the Young and the Restless written by the Elderly and the Retired.

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