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Y&R: Josh Griffith steps down as head writer

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14 minutes ago, Vee said:

I just pray FV at GH doesn't leap at the chance to get ABC to greenlight Roger #4.

Me too, although if Frank had that power he probably would have had Easton back by now.

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    Y&R needs a massive overhaul - this is a show that actually needs good new characters and a proper focus on youth, and to stop the over reliance on Victor, Nikki, and Jack and their horrible stori

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nothing new in this article but ROFL at the picture SOD chose

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Some headwriters over the last two decades or so and their current ages, Slim pickings.

Lorraine Broderick 78

Donna Swajeski ? over 60

Marlene McPherson 63

David Kreizman 51

Dena Higley 67

Ron Carvalati 57

Pam Long 73

Shelly Altman ?

Chuck Pratt 71

Sally Sussman 69

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Hopefully not Higley.

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OMG....it's about time! I just haven't been able to watch the show in such a long time as it just turned into....blah.

Could they please, for the love of God, give a new head writer with fresh ideas a chance???? Recycling another writer who's already past 60 and has written the same stories over and over is not going to make this show spark again. Give fresh and new talent a chance!!!!

Hopefully, this means that we don't have to suffer through these non-stop "corporate takeover stories" that are boring as hell. I stopped watching as I got so tired of hearing people talk about who was going to work at what random company, and who was going to take over whatever random company. And, somehow this was presented as a "story."

The show REALLLLLLY needs to beef up its younger cast if it's going to have a future. I love a lot of the veteran actors on the show, but almost the whole cast is over 50. I mean they even gave Noah a love interest in her 50s. Like WTF? She even played his mom on another show. You need to have characters from all generations represented and for the show to have a future.

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Some headwriters over the last two decades or so and their current ages, Slim pickings.

Lorraine Broderick 78

Donna Swajeski ? over 60

Marlene McPherson 63

David Kreizman 51

Dena Higley 67

Ron Carvalati 57

Pam Long 73

Shelly Altman ?

Chuck Pratt 71

Sally Sussman 69

Nope. None of them. It's time for a fresh voice with new ideas.

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Going to love not seeing Steve Kent or this clown salary hogging this show into death anymore. I can’t believe it took this long to get JG outta here. Damn near every headwriter stint he’s had has driven me away from shows, Tico Santi era OLTL, Victor walking around art galleries with Sabrina and Zapato era YR, Days with the Horton rape couch, and this current abysmal run being the worst of the lot.

Good luck to whoever takes over. I’d hate to have to be the one to figure out how to write around the studio space issue and these very tenured actor salaries. I would love to see Guza run amok with this show or Patrick Mulcahey tbh.

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I actually think that David Kreizman (the youngest on that list) would be a decent choice. He's good at character-based drama and has shown he can work within severe budget constraints.

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3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

somebody who can't get hired in primetime anymore but has ties to Sony.

And there are a ton of out-of-work primetime writers at the moment, as folks in the industry are struggling these days. Might be an interesting idea. Obviously, daytime requires a whole different skill set. They’ve been open to experimenting with U.K. soap writers (to poor results, unfortunately).

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I suggested David Kreizman and Dan O'Connor becoming headwriters for DAYS but maybe Y&R could be a good fit for them instead?

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8 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

And there are a ton of out-of-work primetime writers at the moment, as folks in the industry are struggling these days. Might be an interesting idea. Obviously, daytime requires a whole different skill set. They’ve been open to experimenting with U.K. soap writers (to poor results, unfortunately).

Daran Little, who briefly went to the US for AMC, might be a good departure (I also don't care for his EastEnders scripts, so it wouldn't be a big loss to that show).

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4 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Some of Josh's greatest hits

Bringing back Adam as Spider

Ashland Locke-marrying Victoria then killed off. Elimination of Tara from everyone's memory including her son.

Bringing back Misheal as Amanda.

The disappearance of Christian.

Diane back from the dead.

Matt Clark back from the dead,

Claire Newman/Aunt Jordan.

Stitch returning as akidnapper.

The surrogate story.

Mariah's meltdown.

Aristotle Dumas.

Heather's murder.

Killing off Chance.

And many more.

To me his VERY greatest "hits" were randomly creating a retcon son for Amy Lewis and Nathan Hastings -- a kid whom viewers knew hadn't existed in the first place -- and then haphazardly killing him off, completely derailing his entire retcon storyline, and killing off a REAL legacy character (Chance) in the same slaughter, only to bring back a character NO ONE wanted back, played by a totally different actor than before and de-aged about 20 years, instead of just creating a new character to begin with.

And he did the same "fancy footwork" to anchor the Vanderway family to the canvas -- one retcon after another -- when the damn actors were gone from the show, never to be heard from again.

Nothing Josh Griffith did ever made sense. It's as though there was never a long-range plan to ANYTHING the fool did.

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For decades, soaps have just been recycling the same old, tired hacks who've consistently failed to write quality material at any of the many soaps they've joined.

If one of the usual suspects takes over Y&R, I would hold little-to-no hope of seeing a significant, positive change.

I'd be happy to see Nancy Curlee given a chance at the job (if she is not too old or retired). She was the last good writer TGL ever had.

I'd even prefer a newbie to the industry over one of the deplorables we keep getting stuck with.

Fingers crossed.

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Daran Little, who briefly went to the US for AMC, might be a good departure (I also don't care for his EastEnders scripts, so it wouldn't be a big loss to that show).

I would be very open to that. I understood the logic behind trying Mal Young, even though that of course imploded.

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I haven't seen Y&R in ages, but I used to call it my all time favorite soap opera.

I don't know how Griffith was on Y&R (I watched his material elsewhere and some I enjoyed, some not so much). I do think bringing back Matt Clark was a horrible decision, as well as killing off Chance. And those are just two big ones I know of.

However, when it comes to the day-to-day stories, I just don't see anything changing. Based on the episode counts, this should has such small guarantees for their actors. Who can even tell a story when most of your cast appears 2 times per week at max? And also the number of sets, from what I have read around here, they have no sets anymore.

Also the cast is too heavy with people who have been on the show for far too long. Victor, Nikki, Jack, Nick, Sharon, Phyllis, Victoria, Lauren, Michael, even Lily, Adam and Billy are all so overplayed. Most of them have been on the show pretty much non-stop for at least 20 years, but it goes to 47 years for Nikki. I am not say we should not have these characters. We don't need this many of them and they don't need to run story year after year. Maybe they can stay but be supporting, almost recurring. Otherwise it's hard to keep things fresh. This show needs YOUNG people. It is literally in their name.

I think going with some younger writer, maybe a fan of the show who is in the business, would be better. Bring some new ideas.

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