5 hours ago, Vanguardian53 said:

It's funny how things like this appear so meaningless when they actually mean so much.

Right--as to our discussion about these issues in soaps in general and giving them a sense of reality. It would have been ridiculously easy to do.

4 hours ago, janea4old said:

Random silly crossover nonspoiler stuff.

C'mon Mike Manning--you wouldn't kiss one of the male characters?

This crossover seems pointless. Really all that was needed was Victor, Devon and I guess Abby as his date.. The rest seemed like random info dump about Y&R history that is irrelevant over here

2 hours ago, 1974mdp said:

The show is better than it was months ago for sure. There are A, B, and C stories. I'm kinda here for Katie sticking it to Brooke.

So, they're going to base their whole first fashion line on Deke who's never designed a collection before???? What would have made more sense would be for Deke to be hired as a designer in training and ZENDE leaving Forrester for Logan because he knows he'll always be treated as second-class around RJ.

1 hour ago, detroitpiston said:

Naw I think that argument would only hold water if this was a show filled with nothing but criminals and downtrodden black folks and no nuance. The stereotyping accusations mainly come when that is the only representation black characters are given.

What they’re currently doing by having Joey exert power and control over the Dupree’s and he, Vanessa and Ashley hogging all this airtime leaves a far worse impression for me. You invited an audience and said “this is for you” then pulled the rug out from under us.

Can't argue with this.

I don't think Ashley is hogging airtime, but I find her character so annoying that I notice her more. She's irritating, and the writing does her no favors.

Joey? Heather? Yeah, they bother me. We're going to see them try to take over with their "other operations."

And now we have gun moll Vanessa who wants in on all of the "other operations." Are you kidding me with this?

At the fundraiser, Joey and Vanessa should have been thrown out. They should have been treated like the persona non grata trash they are.

It's bad enough that we get these white people running everything and now we have to put up with the Duprees being shlt on in public.

The writers could at least stop having the Black characters pander to them. I hate it.

I dislike that oversell eg Oh Diane, you were an inspiration -such a fabulous model.

Andre-Jabot has tried to work you with you for years.

Why does everything have to be world famous and super successful? So characters can praise each other?

In what universe would a guy like Andre be in anyway jealous of Devon??

11 hours ago, kalbir said:

Also Febreze.

Very much Febreze.

Susan Walters looks gorgeous on BTG.