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2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Lol!  Well, I only have youtube tv and can't watch any Disney channels as of today, so I guess I have to catch it on hulu if I feel like it.  I guess I was unintentionally saved.

Oh not the YouTube TV bullshït.

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2 hours ago, titan1978 said:

That’s the problem when you are writing the show to hit twists all the time, and don’t care about the details. These are not stories, they are events. During Guza/JFP, I often felt the wheels spinning between sweeps events. The difference was the scripts were much stronger and were designed to illuminate the characters, the words also had specificity. They didn’t just skip over the details either. The problem then was there is only so much I care to watch Sonny/Jason/Carly talk about Michael and their issues for close to a decade.

For all his faults, when Pratt was there with Guza, it didn’t seem as boring between events. Because Pratt likes juicy too, and with his horrible antics there were still actual stories compared to what we have now. Now they are generic Pratt style, all twists, no substance. He at least threw you a carrot in his bag of candy.

It's funny that you worded it like that. I believe ES used those sentences to describe Higley...which was a sign (and the fact ES made a comment publicly) that helped usher her out of OLTL's doors. 

 

I think that is how I was feeling watching. It used to be that you would have a story and it would have a beginning, middle, and end and it was paced out well. DAYS The Killing Pool comes to mind as well as IMHO the Articulates story on BTG. Even the messy Ashley DID story on Y&R sorta. This Drew shooting does not even feel like that. Just plot point to plot point like Anna having the same scene for weeks when she is smarter than that. 

 

Yeah, Pratt definitely liked his juicy. 

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I do still think Willow shot Drew and they've been subtly yet not so subtly keeping it under their hat all along. All you have to do is watch her body language and eyes around him. I don't think they went in not knowing, though it's certainly happened with other stories on this show. But yes, I do think the story is spinning its wheels a lot atm.

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I don't blame caroline or any GH fans for finding it obnoxious lol, but I was mildly charmed by Erika and Chris McKenna sharing scenes today. @DRW50

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25 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

It's funny that you worded it like that. I believe ES used those sentences to describe Higley...which was a sign (and the fact ES made a comment publicly) that helped usher her out of OLTL's doors. 

 

I think that is how I was feeling watching. It used to be that you would have a story and it would have a beginning, middle, and end and it was paced out well. DAYS The Killing Pool comes to mind as well as IMHO the Articulates story on BTG. Even the messy Ashley DID story on Y&R sorta. This Drew shooting does not even feel like that. Just plot point to plot point like Anna having the same scene for weeks when she is smarter than that. 

 

Yeah, Pratt definitely liked his juicy. 

IS Anna smarter than that? What was the last case the PCPD actually closed and got right?

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32 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

IS Anna smarter than that? What was the last case the PCPD actually closed and got right?

Mr. Big? I kid, but it’s been a long time.

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Anna is smart, but the show requires her to be ineffectual and stupid much of the time to make a lot of story work. Finola too often opting to weep through scenes in the last decade-plus for fear of coming off too one-note doesn't help. She's still very good, but they could be handling Anna much better.

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Just now, Vee said:

Anna is smart, but the show requires her to be ineffectual and stupid much of the time to make a lot of story work. Finola too often opting to weep through scenes in the last decade-plus for fear of coming off too one-note doesn't help. She's still very good, but they could be handling Anna much better.

Which sucks, because that one note was often part of her characterization before to good effect. She could seem cold and calculating at times. It played into her past as a double agent, and the losses she had endured. It also worked well with Duke because you got to watch him basically smolder his way past her defenses. She was different with Robin, but still reserved. I think you can make the argument that she has been through so much and should have more access to her emotions. But I would prefer her showing joy more than just crying all the time. Anna cries more than Laura does these days and that just feels wrong to me!

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2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Which sucks, because that one note was often part of her characterization before to good effect. She could seem cold and calculating at times. It played into her past as a double agent, and the losses she had endured. It also worked well with Duke because you got to watch him basically smolder his way past her defenses. She was different with Robin, but still reserved. I think you can make the argument that she has been through so much and should have more access to her emotions. But I would prefer her showing joy more than just crying all the time. Anna cries more than Laura does these days and that just feels wrong to me!

I agree with all of that. I'll always say the scene with Heather she had not long after first coming back in 2012, where Robin Mattson's Heather attempts to negotiate with her for Robin's whereabouts and Anna calmly says no, she's spent her career killing people and will close Heather out unless she complies, is one of her best. "You don't know anything about me." Heather folded immediately too.

I understand Finola wanting to show range but she has nothing to prove, and it's made Anna look far too weak. Which the writing does enough for her.

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28 minutes ago, Vee said:

Anna is smart, but the show requires her to be ineffectual and stupid much of the time to make a lot of story work. Finola too often opting to weep through scenes in the last decade-plus for fear of coming off too one-note doesn't help. She's still very good, but they could be handling Anna much better.

Omg when I got back watching last year, Anna literally cried if you just asked her how her day was. Reminded me of JJ in his last return before this one.

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2 hours ago, Vee said:

I don't blame caroline or any GH fans for finding it obnoxious lol, but I was mildly charmed by Erika and Chris McKenna sharing scenes today. @DRW50

I also get the complaints but after seeing your post I went and watched and I thought it was very sweet. And it didn't really last that long either. And neither will be around much longer so it doesn't have the same elephant stomping vibe as, say, Linda Dano and Kale Browne when they did this on OLTL.

I really loved the Viki/Joey relationship under Chris so I'm partial to this anyway.

Chris tweeted an outtake.

 

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I really loved the Viki/Joey relationship under Chris so I'm partial to this anyway.

Chris tweeted an outtake.

Man. That gave me a moment of the OLTL revival I always wanted with Chris as Joey, the local community activist and heir to Andrew Carpenter yet again. Worth it. (Sorry, GH fans)

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It was nice to see a little flash of early 1990s OLTL with Vicki and Joey. I did watch way back then 😥

The scenes between Lucy and Tracy were nice too. I didn't think the writers had it in them. Lucy came across as a real human being instead of a cartoon. I would like to see more of that, and her with Tracy.

Lulu has more chemistry with Tracy than she does with Laura. That might partly be the writers shafting Laura though. Too bad they never gave Tracy a real daughter.

 

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I watched and the OLTL mention and scenes were very brief.  Not too bad.  If I hadn't been clobbered over the head with OLTL shout outs since Frank took over, I may have even thought it was cute.  I still think the Gio/Emma scenes could have been extended instead though.

Overall, the episode was good especially considering the warnings I got.  

Hopefully the Ronnie story will be wrapping up shortly.  For some reason I thought it would go on longer, but I guess it really was a short run for ES.

 

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