2 hours ago, janea4old said:

Did I miss a scene in some earlier episode setting up a Smitty/Kenny meeting? That seemed to come out of nowhere (to me). How did Smitty know what Kenny looks like or how to find him in the park? 

Another missed beat, amongst many. Famous for this show so far.

I have found missed beats to be rare with this show, which is why I noted this one with Smitty meeting Kenny with no explanation.   A very very rare missed beat for BTG.  I find that BTG covers most of the beats and nuances.

Edited July 15Jul 15 by janea4old

2 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I have found missed beats to be rare with this show, which is why I noted this one with Smitty meeting Kenny with no explanation.   A very very rare missed beat for BTG.  I find that BTG covers most of the beats and nuances.

Agreed. Thank you! 

 

On another topic, one thing that I truly love is everyone acknowledges Smitty and Martin are husbands without skipping one single beat. I think it's beautiful. If only the world........ 

The break out character for me in today's episode was Vanessa.  She made Dani likable, she had a good rapport with Vernon, and her scenes with Joey are still a winner in my book.

Even though she wasn't the lead character in today's episode, she added so much to each and every scene she was in.. and I hope to see how she continues to fit onto the canvas.  I have a feeling she grew up with Nicole and Dani since it was mentioned in the past that she grew up with money and that marrying Doug was her first taste of being rebellious against her upbringing.

 

 

39 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

The break out character for me in today's episode was Vanessa.  She made Dani likable, she had a good rapport with Vernon, and her scenes with Joey are still a winner in my book.

Even though she wasn't the lead character in today's episode, she added so much to each and every scene she was in.. and I hope to see how she continues to fit onto the canvas.  I have a feeling she grew up with Nicole and Dani since it was mentioned in the past that she grew up with money and that marrying Doug was her first taste of being rebellious against her upbringing.

 

 

The more scenes Vanessa has with Dani the more I begin to think the show is adhering to the viewer feedback about Vanessa/Dani being more believable as friends than Pam/Dani. 

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

I have found missed beats to be rare with this show, which is why I noted this one with Smitty meeting Kenny with no explanation.   A very very rare missed beat for BTG.  I find that BTG covers most of the beats and nuances.

And I got your back on that.

 

Missed beats are actually rare on this show. And I know I point them off (and point out when a beat is played so people see they were played heehee) when they do. 

 

1 hour ago, MontyB said:

Agreed. Thank you! 

Same.

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

I’m so glad the show remembered their friendship. They make infinitely more sense than Dani and Pam.

Same. I stay saying this and have pointed out every time they have a scene together because  their scenes have gotten rare sadly. I love me some Dani and Vanessa. 

 

Heck, speaking of missed beats hehe...I would love it if the show picked up the one where it seem that there is no love lost between Vanessa and Pamela. It would be a great way to flesh out Pamela more. Because they clearly didn't like each other BEFORE Diego walked in that one episode. Almost like they both were competing for Dani's friendship. 

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

I have found missed beats to be rare with this show, which is why I noted this one with Smitty meeting Kenny with no explanation.   A very very rare missed beat for BTG.  I find that BTG covers most of the beats and nuances.

No they don't in terms of beats. But moving on.

Anywho...

Let's welcome him as the devilish Dupree son. Nathaniel Dupree.

7-9

 

Well, I definitely wanted to watch it again before I said anything. Because I was heated over those Andre/Dani/Ashley scenes. It was another good Jazmen episode. 

 

Martin's Secret is still up front even if it was not the main thing going on. I liked watching Martin spiraling even if his kids were driving me crazy. We got another step toward the truth with Jacob having that flash of memory of seeing his father. And the side-by-side conversation between Jacob and his father and Smitty and Martin was very well-done. A chance for the truth to come out? Of course not. Not yet. And then a whole subplot with Randy/Joey/Doug/Vanessa...An A story that keeps giving. 

 

And speaking of that side-plot...I like it. I like the fact that it is part of the main plot, but it also served the B plot of Doug/Vanessa/Joey which has, as I mentioned before, been the best paced of the B plots. Outside of Dani/Andre of course. I will miss Randy and the friendship between him and Doug. But I loved that Vanessa got to be a boss bitca. I called that her seeing Joey with Marcel and Jacob's father would come back up. And it showed in those scenes. I also liked that it made the whole Doug/Vanessa/Joey storyline that much messier. 

 

But what I was really looking forward to was Hurricane Dani!!! And the dialogue was great. And I admit that I guess I liked how reserved (for her to STILL be over the top) KM and Dani were in those scenes. All Ashley wanted was to have a date with her growing crush. Not only did she see her ex, but she saw (unknowingly? I think the rest of us would see what's up...not Ashley *eyeroll*) Andre's other woman. Smh. While I love the battle of wits between Andre and Dani...and it came across better for me on a rewatch...I still can't with Andre. HE wanted her to come out with their relationship. SHE was doing what he wanted her to do, slowly, but surely. The part that bugs me...HE knew she was in the progress of doing it. How Andre has been acting over the last week (and how SF has been playing it), he is backpedaling...not because of any serious issues with Dani who has btw been upfront with her issues/feelings with Bill, but because of what was established in Episode 1...he has a torch for Ashley and now that she's free...he's making his move. And for all of their intimate conversations, he really has not been up front too much about that and who it is with Dani. It's part of the reason I feel (speculating) that Ashley will figure out that Hayley isn't with child and will probably be about to tell about it, but won't because she will find out who Andre's other woman is and keep quiet out of spite. But...we will see. 

 

In any case, I felt while they both got good digs in, Andre was being uncharacteristically a prick. And I'm at the offramp with Dani/Andre who I was actually loving. Way too soon, I know. But then again, that might have been the point if the writers are going to head back around to the Dani/Bill/Hayley story anyway. And I have to say it was a great job because I'm no longer interested in the pairing. Those scenes hit.

 

But it was a Jazmen episode so not shocking. 

Martin is going to be seriously messed up mentally and emotionally after all this. It definitely was Vernon's idea to cover up this incident so he holds a lot of responsibility for the consequences. Yes, black men are not going to be given the benefit of the doubt for self-defense, but covering up a situation makes it look actually suspicious. Vernon is a terrible schemer despite his aggressive attitude.

 

Did anyone else spot that fly buzzing around Vanessa and Vernon in Orphey Genes after she walked in, I hate flys lol. I can only imagine how TMG wouldve improvised had it buzzed around her, especially the other day when she was enjoying her toast haha

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So all the men involved, those who were present, committed murder. How nice.

Martin's secret is looking like a big letdown.

The kids today were very annoying with Smitty.

7 hours ago, dragonflies said:

LOL his tweet and replies are funny too

 

 

 

I saw that yesterday (cuz Ellis's birthday I believe also just passed. RIP) and hollered. 

 

21 hours ago, Antoyne said:

JR was quite good on Y&R and he can generate chemistry with his co stars which is a plus. I’d welcome him in a heartbeat.

Oh, I know. Very much. I wouldn't mind him here to play. A blessing from that horrible writing. 

 

21 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I also haven’t had a problem with BC but I feel like I’m starting to be in the minority about the show in general. It’s still my most look forward to show every afternoon and the only one I try to watch live.

Vernon being so shocked murder was on the table made me roll My eyes. But I still continue to love every Bill and Vernon interaction.

Madison and Chelsea still do nothing for me.

A female love triangle with 3 black women has to be a first on soaps though.

Continue to love Jacob and Smitty as friends. I’m a big fan of friendships on soaps and don’t understand why everyone always wants everyone to hook up.

You're not alone on that. It's the only show that I feel like rewatching for the show (and not just the bods and camera angles ). But I am aware that I watch the show from a different lens than others. And if I can watch it live...totally. Not many soaps can be a show that has enough stuff going on that one needs to go back. But here we are. 

 

Same. Bill and Vernon always have great interaction.

 

I think that is another reason why I like the drama with Chelesa. 3 black women is a first on soaps. 

 

lol. Same. Same with Kat and Jacob. I just like them for their brother/sister vibe and I like the friendship with Jacob and Smitty who both married into the family so totally makes sense why they would vibe.