BTG: July 2025 Discussion Thread

[watson71]

Sharon or Tracey? 

[janea4old]

For the theory that June might be connected to Sharon or Tracy -- especially Tracy:  At the start of the phonecall to the number on June's photo, Naomi identified herself as "Naomi Richardson Hawthorne".    Would Sharon or Tracy recognize that name as being Anita's granddaughter? 
Maybe not at that moment of the phonecall.  Perhaps later on after hanging up, the mystery woman might realize who Naomi is?

Another poster upthread wondered if perhaps the mystery woman answering the phone call is a new person that is sister to both Hayley and June.  Hmmmm.

Edited July 16 by janea4old

[GLATWT88]

Those character interactions wouldn't have been prevented if the secret was revealed to the audience through Martin's dream. Maybe we would have understood why Martin doesn't want to tell his family or maybe even empathize with his course of action a little more. We could have seen Martin struggle with his decision to hold the press conference. However, keeping the secret hidden from the audience this long, has taken the life out of certain scenes. The scene with Kenny and Smitty was so brief and revealed nothing. It could have been so juicy had we known the secret and we saw Kenny taunting Smitty about it. Both men having a real face off. The men gathered at Bill's office as many have mentioned before was pointless. All that to have Martin have a breakdown so nothing else would be shown just to keep the secret under wraps. Now we have had multiple scenes with Smitty and Jacob and Vernon and Bill that don't go anywhere and regurgitate mostly the same thing all for the sake of this secret not being out to the viewer. Ted who knows his son's secret is MIA and being played by Leslie. This would have been a great time to build that father/son relationship we really haven't seen from Martin and Ted. I mean Vernon is pretty much the paternal role in Martin's life. 

My understanding in the beginning and based on conversations that Martin had was that he wasn't fully aware of his dream or what happened that night. Otherwise, why would he go talk to his mother and say he's been having weird dreams and not sure what they're about. When Nicole told him to seek help, he knew not to because Vernon had just told him he couldn't talk to anyone about it. He had conversations with Vernon that implied he didn't know what happened. When he first confronted Kenny, he wasn't sure what the whole "What color is your money?" thing was about. I think it would have been interesting around now...maybe a week or two ago, Martin would have at least had the realization of what this dream was all about. The secret wouldn't need to come out to everyone, but it would have kept some momentum going. Right now, we are in this weird limbo of reveal and nothing really moving for the sake of keeping the secret still secret.

It was a little ridiculous for all these men to get Kenny where they wanted him to then botch the plan and have Kenny parade all over town like he didn't have a hit on him. It's fine that Randy didn't go through with it...but is Joey a criminal or is he cosplaying as one? You mean to tell me Big Bad Joey has never had someone offed and that Randy, his right hand, has never had to do something this questionable? There is where sometimes I feel the creators are too close to their characters. Maybe someone didn't want to make Randy an intentional murderer, but at least make Kenny's escape something more believable. I know there aren't many sets, but this could have been done in a more interesting way. 

 

 

[janea4old]

I'm ready for today Tuesday. I think something will be revealed today, and then the fallout will begin as ramifications start to happen over several episodes. (Not a spoiler, just guessing).
Today's the day?! hopefully
 

Today is Episode #91.  Looking forward to Episode #100 which airs Tues. July 29.  My *speculation* is that there will either be a new layer of the Martin storyline, or a new reveal of a completely different storyline? 
Months ago, Police Chief Elon Hawthorne asked Anita to work on the police benefit event. 
I think the police event will be just a local event; but maybe Marcel Malone and Chief Hawthorne will be exposed for their connection to Joey and/or Martin?

Or maybe Episode #100 could be the Articulettes reunion concert, but I don't think that's happening quite yet?  Not sure.

I really hope that the Articulettes are doing something separate from the police event, LOL -- The Articulettes reunion is intended to relaunch the individual careers of Tracy and Sharon, and a local police benefit event wouldn't do that.

Episode #100 is nine episodes from now.  Maybe it's just something fun? Whatever it is, I'm looking forward.

Edited July 16 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Yesterday Tuesday July 15:  I loved Naomi & Jacob's entire conversation.

Naomi to Jacob:
"You know, growing up, the Richardsons were always the secure, stable branch of the family. But now it's looking like they were just better at hiding their drama, while us Hamiltons let our freak flags fly."

[Antoyne]

I loved that part of their convo as well.

[janea4old]

There was an interesting parallel going on.

Samantha/Tyrell/Smitty conversation: they have a pact in their family (including Martin) that they always tell each other everything, which makes it harder for them since Martin hasn't been telling them.

Naomi/Jacob: we always tell each other everything, and Jacob admits that he almost considered not telling Naomi about Martin, because he didn't want to cause her worry, but he told her anyhow.  (implying that he is honoring their trust by telling her.)

Meanwhile Nicole is going to be so enraged that Vernon, Anita, and Ted  wanted to hide the Martin mess.

Edited July 16 by janea4old

[janea4old]

 

I agree with some of your points.

Martin should have told Smitty and the kids first, obviously.  But I get why he didn't bring his staff or a "crisis management team" to the press conference.   Vernon, Bill, and others have been "managing" this crisis for the past two years, and did it poorly.  I can see why Martin now doesn't trust anyone to handle things except himself.

Martin has no sense because ultimately Vernon has not appropriately trained Martin to handle crises effectively.  Vernon's "solutions" have been to *throw money at it* and to suppress the truth.  Vernon is a strong, fierce, and suave character, but not as savvy as he wants everyone to believe.

Edited July 16 by janea4old

[Liberty City]

I agree; this story is so not dragged out at all.

[skiman12082004]

I totally agree with both of you.

 

[Liberty City]

Writers:
Christopher Dunn
Jazmen Darnell Brown

Director:
Steven Williford

[All My Shadows]

Martin: “Does any of this make sense to you?”

Baby…

[janea4old]

Martin knows this is all to convenient/suspicious.  The only thing that makes sense is that the situation was engineered.

He's not falling for Bill/Marcel/Vernon manipulation anymore.

I don't like anything about Joey Armstrong.  That character needs to leave the show. 

Edited July 16 by janea4old

[janea4old]

Okay Martin is finally telling Smitty everything!  And ... commercial.  
Glad I'm watching live but.
Will watch again later on Pplus without commercials so I can see it straight through.

[All My Shadows]

This secret would’ve been more exciting if the scene played out like the XHamster video it was setting itself up to be.