3 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Two months today y'all! Already have 2 months under their belts already yay BTG 🙌

-- The Kat/Eva/Leslie stuff was surprising and fun.

-- Tomas is stiff as a board with Kat. There's no chemistry there.

-- Vanessa is a ho.

-- The casino stuff continues to be a dud.

-- I have no interest in seeing Vanessa ride Joey.

I hate how Joey is openly disrespecting Vanessa, talking to her like she's garbage, while complimenting her with fake words.   Telling her that he owns the escort service -- he pretended to be polite but it was menacing and so very creepy.   This is behavior I hope she can recognize, if she can.

I also hate that he's secretly using her for financial stuff, which she wouldn't know about.

So it's two different things and I hate them both.

I feel like they've been mostly writing this show for a women audience, but this Joey storyline is so demeaning to women.  Well Joey is also demeaning to everyone, including Randy and Doug. Everyone is just a pawn to him.

Edited April 25Apr 25 by janea4old

15 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I hate how Joey is openly disrespecting Vanessa, talking to her like she's garbage, while complimenting her with fake words.   Telling her that he owns the escort service -- he pretended to be polite but it was menacing and so very creepy.   This is behavior I hope she can recognize, if she can.

I also hate that he's secretly using her for financial stuff, which she wouldn't know about.

So it's two different things and I hate them both.

I feel like they've been mostly writing this show for a women audience, but this Joey storyline is so demeaning to women.  Well Joey is also demeaning to everyone, including Randy and Doug. Everyone is just a pawn to him.

Thank you. I hate it that so many people are loving Vanessa and Joey together and enjoying their supposed chemistry. The guy is a liar and a criminal and a misogynist.

I want to see Doug beat Joey down B&B style. Joey needs to be put in his place.

And I forgot to comment on Bill's hand shaking when he was carrying Hayley. If he has a heart attack while in bed with her it will be mildly amusing.

Tbh Doug feels like he has a short shelf life, and at the end of this Vanessa will be coming out of this story a strong independent widow who beat Joey at his own game (he too has a short shelf life).

 

Randy seems like one of those supporting characters who may have a bigger role to play in the future after this Joey arc is over. 

Two months in and finally starting to climax a story. I say congrats!!

7 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 

And just a heads up, there may be some unplanned preemptions of all four networks coming up soon because of the Pope. 

Thank you for the heads up. 😊

3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Thank you. I hate it that so many people are loving Vanessa and Joey together and enjoying their supposed chemistry. The guy is a liar and a criminal and a misogynist.

You can't have misandry on a show without a little misogynist to balance it out.  

Okay... so Joey runs an escort service too? Looks like that's a detail that can give rise to potential future stories and plot twists. 

Yeah, I know that Joey is very scummy and diabolical and he's a horrible person, but he does have chemistry with Vanessa. Two things can be true and they don't have to be mutually exclusive. 

And am I horrible for secretly hoping that Joey somehow sticks around as a long term villain? I mean, Bill and Hayley can't be the only antagonists on canvas and we don't know how much longer Leslie is going to stick around once her scheme is unraveled. 

And I will say that Vanessa and Doug also have a lot of chemistry, which is surprising given the current state of their marriage. 

I also was not expecting Leslie to walk in on Kat taking a picture of the family photo with Leslie and Eva. I wonder what's going to happen to Kat now. 

On 4/24/2025 at 1:07 AM, Gatecrashers said:

Some people are saying there are no longer any surprises after two months. This was certainly a sexy, pleasant surprise!

Speaking of sexy, who here would have rathered a scene with Chelsea and company getting down instead of Derelict and Ashley?

I feel like the main reason why we really haven't had too many scenes with Chelsea and that couple is because TPTB might be worried about the potential backlash they might receive and how viewers might react. Just speculation. 

Leslie's downfall is her own stupidity. It never made any sense why she created the Anna persona and approached Kat. Even if she wanted to do that, why not just do it as Leslie? She was being too extra for no reason

also why does she still have photos up in that place after Ted walked in? He could come back to see if she actually left or something like what happened yesterday could have always been a possibility. Im not understanding her

Yesterday's episode was my fav I've gotten to write so far. It was all about parents and their kids and it has a party! Kat's bday, those scenes with Vernon and Dani, Anita and Nicole, Leslie and Eva, Ted and Eva, and even Bill and Hayley talking babies...#repost pic.twitter.com/UsJwreJ2eN

— danielle paige (@daniellempaige) April 15, 2025

 

 

Never get over turning on the tv and hearing words I got to write come out of these brilliant actors! #BeyondTheGates pic.twitter.com/scnj8Vizio

— danielle paige (@daniellempaige) April 24, 2025

 

 

Edited April 25Apr 25 by janea4old

I haven't been too interested in Joey thus far, but I am ecstatic to learn more about his escort service. We could get some colorful characters from that world; just wish we had more single men on canvas.

1 hour ago, MissPhoenixGirl92 said:

Okay... so Joey runs an escort service too? Looks like that's a detail that can give rise to potential future stories and plot twists. 

I feel like the main reason why we really haven't had too many scenes with Chelsea and that couple is because TPTB might be worried about the potential backlash they might receive and how viewers might react. Just speculation. 

I agree, the escort service could be fun.

They should take a chance with the Chelsea storyline, a little controversy wouldn't hurt the show; what happened to Daytime pushing the envelope?

38 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

Leslie's downfall is her own stupidity. It never made any sense why she created the Anna persona and approached Kat. Even if she wanted to do that, why not just do it as Leslie? She was being too extra for no reason

also why does she still have photos up in that place after Ted walked in? He could come back to see if she actually left or something like what happened yesterday could have always been a possibility. Im not understanding her

Same. I had trouble understanding her motives and actions too!

12 hours ago, janea4old said:

I feel like they've been mostly writing this show for a women audience, but this Joey storyline is so demeaning to women.  Well Joey is also demeaning to everyone, including Randy and Doug. 

You're right, they have. You could still make this story about a woman's triumph

12 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

Tbh Doug feels like he has a short shelf life, and at the end of this Vanessa will be coming out of this story a strong independent widow who beat Joey at his own game (he too has a short shelf life).

 

11 minutes ago, DemetriKane said:

You could still make this story about a woman's triumph

Regardless of whatever happens with Doug or Joey, I very much like the idea of Vanessa coming out of this as strong, independent, and triumphant.

Edited April 25Apr 25 by janea4old

So Joey owns an escort service? Several weeks ago I was inquiring about how Ted and Leslie turned into a "thing." I questioned if he met her on an extended business trip while she worked as a paid escort. OK. A run in with Joey and Silky is all I'll need.