Members DRW50 Posted March 20 Members Share Posted March 20 I would say it's down to more than just having a lot of daytime veterans - some of the daytime veterans are among the worst actors on the show, while some of the new hires of the last few years are real bright spots. We're still getting some moments, but I think the Carly favoritism has been much worse in some years than now - admittedly that is because Carly is about as boxed in as we have seen the character, so it could change, but it's not on the level of even a few years ago where everyone kept dragging Nina through the mud for daring to report Carly to the cops. How you describe GH is how I'd say it has been for a long time, including in Mulcahey's run (which I don't put all on him as he was clearly being sabotaged, but few things bore me more with this show than "We're all mad at Sonny...but psst...it's not actually his fault!"), but I think there are still some surprisingly good moments at times. Part of that is down to them taking what Mulcahey gave them and running with it (albeit in a very clunky, one-note manner), like the Drew darkness, and part is finally smoothing over some stories that had rougher starts (like the whole Brook Lynn/Dante/Gio story). I think it's just disappointing to watch the show because you know it probably won't ever be allowed to improve, that any small improvements are cut off and any improvements are probably network mandates (like firing Easton and Howarth), which isn't how things should be. And you can see the spite from Frank and co in how some of those mandates are executed (the returns of Lucky and Lulu). As the quality writers who kept the show watchable on a day-to-day basis are long gone, there's even less reason to ever hope for improvement, which can make things too demoralizing to even want to sit through. BtG is the great new hope, even though some of the writers (outside of Michele Val Jean) are the same group who did severe damage to GH, so GH is always going to be harder to watch. I can't really compare them as shows because both are in the same boat - they will be lucky to survive year to year, given the state of TV and of the genre. I hope they make it. Hell, I hope any of us make it year to year, let alone the soaps. But I also know that the GH which makes it is never going to be the show you or many others mourn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Liberty City Posted March 20 Members Share Posted March 20 Which veterans would you say are "among the worst"? I'm looking at the vets list, and I don't have a problem with any of the, honestly. I've always maintained: Carly becoming "untouchable" by anyone in Port Charles has become overkill, and those that do touch her become the "bad boy" (i.e., Ava & Nina). The last time she felt touchable was right before the "writer" became head writer. Garin Wolf made her touchable. Realistically, ABC should just ditch Varni & Valentini, and then put someone else back into the helm, and allow some actual changes to be made. Until then, I'm sure Disney ABC is just waiting for GH to drain their bank accounts so they can shut it down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 20 Members Share Posted March 20 Benard is the top of the list for me. Burton has improved but he still does little for me compared to others on the show. And there is just a big slew of "OK...I guess," like Wally Kurth. Even with Garin Wolf it was a break from established patterns. I think for most of Laura's tenure she's been written this way, for various reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j swift Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 (edited) Knowing nothing from nothing, do we predict that Kevin will raise Ace in the other room for the next few years? Or do you think we'll get an explanation for his absence? Because I certainly hope that they are not looking to absolve Sonny of his sins, by practicing the common decency of helping his friend Laura through loss. And I'm not talking about the use of limousines, which is how Sonny has 'helped' women grieve in the past. Edited March 21 by j swift 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 I realize you mean well but from my pov the only action I can see to take is to put one foot in front of the other. Possibly there could be a better idea but if so I have not hit upon it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty City Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Oh, I wasn't even considering Bernard, a veteran, in my list. I was thinking more people like Genie Francis, Finola Hughes, etc. those people. It was, and Wolf was under Phelps' production, so. And it worked for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 I wanted to puke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Jon Lindstrom is doing both BTG and GH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Sonny killed Jagger for less but just let Valentin go. And Brennan had Valentin dead to rights but wanted to have a whole conversation before Anna even showed up Please register in order to view this content . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Sonny should pay for Jagger Maybe that could be his eventual exit Sonny does not deserve happiness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aragorn Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Ace hasn’t had a scene with his aunt Lulu yet. I want Lucky and Lulu to spend time with the nephew/adopted brother. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carolineg Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 (edited) Please register in order to view this content Please Donna stop. Hit upon whatever you want privately but you can't even respond to my fairly nice PM. You aren't changing. You aren't doing anything on this board except making it toxic. You literally told me your entire post towards me was cut off and Idk I have been posting all day fine. You should probably talk to the MODs about that. Edited March 21 by carolineg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Oye at this show.... Brooklyn is mad at Lois because Grandma knew? Please register in order to view this content Ridiculous!! Anna should've just killed all three at the pier. Anna telling Valentin he had to pay because he had already committed too many crimes. Yet, Sonny hasn't paid for Jagger's murder, and I've lost count of how many he's committed. Speaking of he's having a nice cup of tea with Mayor Laura. General Hospital is a joke. No wonder they are dead last in demos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted March 21 Members Share Posted March 21 Gosh, how long has it been since we've even laid eyes on Baby Ace? I know at a minimum, months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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