ALL: What are your lost soap media "holy grails" for 2025?

[Chris B]

Bill Bell joined 7 months into the shows run so it would've been his material.

[Paul Raven]

Well, he we are just beginning the year and an episode of Doug Marland's cable soap A New Day in Eden has been posted, (in the cancelled soaps thread) The first time it has been see online,I believe.

Bodes well for 2025!

[Alan]

Thank for alerting me to that.

I just remembered some more lost soap media.

I would like to see more episodes of the Canadian soap Riverdale emerge, especially from 1997.

I would love to see the behind-the-scenes videos from SoapCity.com again. Almost 25 years ago that website posted the most remarkable BTS footage of DOOL, GL, and ATWT. I wish I had saved those quicktime videos. They were fascinating!

[kalbir]

That's unfortunate that the beginning of Bill Bell Days is lost.

[Contessa Donatella]

Yes, that is exactly what I was afraid of when I originally heard about it in that Dishin' Days podcast with the info coming from Stephanie Sloane. At least it's only a year although that is admittedly very small consolation.

[cody_1990]

It would definitely be interesting to know what dates are lost. I feel like we’ve seen a few flashbacks on the show from that era over the years. I would assume September 1966-September 1967, as September is the official start of a television season. Or is it all of 1966 or 1967? I feel like they’ve used flashbacks from 1966 before and if I am not mistaken they’ve also shown a clip from Mickey and Laura’s wedding at the end of 1967. @JAS0N47 would you have an info on this? 

[Contessa Donatella]

Well, I personally have episodes from 1966 & I am aware of others who do also. The first wedding on the show is an episode I have. I'm not sure why it is so but those of us who collect these tend to have about 2 dozen 1965 & then a gap of course but then another 2 dozen in 1966, although they are in March, not September. And, these personal collection episodes are entirely tangential to this discussion, so that will be all I'll add. 

[JAS0N47]

I don't have any info on the specific dates. I had thought they had the entire series until that mention of some being lost. I know the photos of Mickey/Laura's wedding, but don't know a way of checking if they aired flashbacks to it.

These are the three episodes from 1981-2019 with a Laura flashback, excluding the Jaime Lyn Bauer years:

5364A...11/27/86: (insert episode with flashbacks)

Cast: Alice, Caroline, Jennifer, Maggie, Melissa, Mickey, Mike, Shawn, Tom, Doug, Sarah, Abe (FBO), Addie (FBO), Alex (FBO), Bill (FBO), Bo (FBO), Don (FBO), Hope (FBO), Julie (FBO), Kimberly (FBO), Larry (FBO), Laura (FBO), Liz (FBO), Marie (FBO), Marlena (FBO), Neil (FBO), Pete (FBO), Original Roman (FBO), Roman (FBO), Shane (FBO), Howie (FBO), Ben (FBO) Andrew (FBO), Minister (FBO), Pastor Fisher’s Voice (FBO), Archbishop (FBO), Horse/animal (FBO).

Sets: Small Nurses’ Station, Horton Living Room & Foyer, Horton Kitchen.

 

6392..11/23/90:
Cast: Alice, Bo, Carly, Frankie, Jack, Jennifer, Jo, Julie, Kayla, Maggie, Mickey, Neil, Roman, Shane, Tom, Addie (FBO), Adrienne (FBO), Alex (FBO), Bill (FBO), David (FBO), Doug (FBO), Emilio (FBO), Faith (FBO), Glenn (FBO), Hope (FBO), Howie (FBO), Ivy (FBO), Jake (FBO), Jessica (FBO), Justin (FBO), Kimberly (FBO), Larry (FBO), Laura (FBO), Lawrence (FBO), Liz (FBO), Margo (FBO), 1960's Marie (FBO), 1970's Marie (FBO), Marlena (FBO), 1970's Mike (FBO), 1980's Mike (FBO), Patch (FBO), Original Roman (FBO), Scott (FBO), Scotty (FBO), Tommy (FBO), Trish (FBO), Marty (FBO), Teen Sarah (FBO), Young Carrie (FBO), Young Hope (FBO), Young Sarah (FBO), Baby Andrew (FBO), Baby Eric (FBO), Baby Hope (FBO), Baby Sami (FBO), Baby Shawn Douglas (FBO), Stephanie (FBO), Ben (FBO).

Sets: Horton Kitchen, Tunnel/Alamainia (three areas), Alice's Alamain Mansion Bedroom & Corridor/Alamainia, Horton Living Room.

 

9207...12/25/01:

Cast: Alice/Frances Reid, Belle/Kirsten Storms, Bo/Peter Reckell, Brady/Kyle Lowder, Chloe/Nadia Bjorlin, Hope/Kristian Alfonso, Jack/Matthew Ashford, Jennifer/Melissa Reeves, John/Drake Hogestyn, Maggie/Suzanne Rogers, Marlena/Deidre Hall, Mickey/John Clarke, Philip/Jay Kenneth Johnson, Shawn/Jason Cook, Julie/Susan Seaforth Hayes, Doug/Bill Hayes, Tom (FBO), Marie (FBO), Bill (FBO), Laura/Susan Flannery (FBO), Laura/Rosemary Forsyth (FBO), Baby Brady (FBO), Melissa (FBO), Mike/Wesley Eure (FBO), Mike/Michael Weiss (FBO), Ivy (FBO), Glen (FBO), Young Sarah (FBO), Roman (FBO), Abe (FBO), Grandpa Shawn (FBO), Chip (FBO), Molly (FBO), Bob (FBO), Baby Hope (FBO), Calliope (FBO), Lexie (FBO), Brandon (FBO).

Sets: Horton Living Room & Exterior, .COM, Park, Easel For Insert Shot Photos of Betty Corday/Ted Corday/Ken Corday.

[All My Shadows]

Two episodes of AMC from spring/summer 1970 have been on YT for over a year, and I don't think they've ever been shared or discussed here on SON. I just posted them in the AMC thread. As I noted there, these eps are a first for AMC, as I don't think we've ever seen any 70s episodes as they originally aired on ABC (rather than from Daytime to Remember or on SoapNet).

[Paul Raven]

So we've had the New Day in Eden episode, some 1970 eps of AMC brought to our attention, CBS primetime soap pilot 919 5th Avenue posted and Alan posting complete issues of CBS Soaps in Depth from 1999 - and we are still in January.

Good start to the year.

[Contessa Donatella]

ALL THAT GLITTERS end of last year & continuing with regular new episodes this year.

[Paul Raven]

I would love to see some issues/scans of Afternoon TV magazine from the late 70's/early 80's. There were a lot of interesting interviews/reviews etc.

[Maxim]

Maybe this has been discussed million times, but forgive my ADHD and picky memory - has the 70s of AMC survived in some form or has it been destroyed? 

[All My Shadows]

For the most part, no. The generally accepted story is that the earliest years were saved by Agnes via her production company, Creative Horizons, but the tapes were destroyed in a fire. After the show was sold to ABC, episodes were wiped, but (and this is the part that's never been confirmed, AFAIK) when plans were made to expand the show to an hour, Agnes insisted that ABC preserve the tapes, which they began to do in the months prior to the expansion.

All that's popped up over the years are several episodes from the first year (Daytime to Remember, SoapNet, Agnes's website, the recent YouTube finds), a color clip of the first 5 or so minutes of a 1971 episode, Tom and Erica's 1978 wedding (reran on SoapNet), and Tom confronting Erica over her taking birth control in 1979 (Daytime to Remember and reran on SoapNet). There are also some audio recordings from the mid-70s, including a full ep or two from 1975 centering around Mary Kennicott's murder.

I'm very curious as to what else might be out there since clips were used in the various anniversary shows and memorial episodes. The 20th anniversary show definitely has clips from the debut episode, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone has it somewhere.

[Vee]

What we've learned in the digital age is that when it comes to 'lost' media there's often always more. It's just a question of who has it.