2 minutes ago, Aragorn said:

I was right! Dex is dead! Cyrus snuck up and got him while he was watching the game. This is the second murder on Elizabeth’s watch. Anna is going to arrest her for murder and then Lucky will be her hero. 
Based on how Dex was killed off I don’t think that the writers gave a damn about him. The show wants Joss with Gio. I won’t miss Evan Hofer. He was not a good actor.

Feels like Dex is one of those characters who was lost in the shuffle this year.

They seemed to have Gio mooning over the knockoff Carly and then went to Trina so I have no idea what their plans are, but any attempt to make Joss a central heroine will fail. She's just not compelling or sympathetic.

14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Feels like Dex is one of those characters who was lost in the shuffle this year.

Well, Eden McCoy confirmed the new regime wanted to shake up all couples, so I don't even know if there were romantic plans for Dex, outside of a potentially teased connection with Molly.

They delivered the shock and entertainment today lol

Was not expecting Dex to actually die I thought for sure he’d land in a coma. Bravo to the show and actor for not spoiling the surprise. Eden McCoy and Finola Hughes did solid work outside of his room while the staff tried to save Dex and so did Rebecca Herbst with the final scene contemplating how this could have happened. I never truly cared for the character so good riddance and I expect Joss will get Natalia’s son for a love interest next.

The fall out from the video reveal was great. Laura Wright, Jane Elliott and Wally Kurth carried the load here and did it well. Ned and Tracy cackling then reading Drew the riot act alongside BrookLynn was chefs kiss. Carly ripping Willow a new one after she tried shifting the blame to Michael for even having the video then going off on Drew was what I was waiting for 🔥 Then the ending with Carly catching Nina and Willow trying to run off with the kids? Love it, this is how I like my Caroline giving people HELL. Shout out to Cynthia Watros for the way she delivered the “This is war” warning line to Willow too.

Its unfortunate Michael is still written like such a simp because he felt like a background player the whole episode. I guess the writers were just as bored of Chad Duell as he has looked onscreen.

I hope they ditch the forced Trina aggravation at Kai for good because they were so much more interesting to watch today, loved the chemistry between them now that she’s not being such a nag.

Lulu and Dante also had some great scenes, I loved how they addressed Sam’s death and the banter over her breaking into Wyndemere. I could rock with this version of Lante if they go there

LOL’d at both Ric and Ava’s cards declining and Lucas having to come save them. This Cassadine’s stealing their money back plot could be interesting depending on who they have being behind it.

Solid episode overall I’m excited for Monday

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Do you remember Rory’s death. He was a rookie cop too. Rory’s death was far more dramatic than Dex’s. 

54 minutes ago, Aragorn said:

I was right! Dex is dead! Cyrus snuck up and got him while he was watching the game. This is the second murder on Elizabeth’s watch. Anna is going to arrest her for murder and then Lucky will be her hero. 
Based on how Dex was killed off I don’t think that the writers gave a damn about him. The show wants Joss with Gio. I won’t miss Evan Hofer. He was not a good actor.

I won't miss him either. He bugged the bejeebers outta me. Too much of a suck-up character at every turn. Won't even miss his abs.

13 minutes ago, Aragorn said:

Do you remember Rory’s death. He was a rookie cop too. Rory’s death was far more dramatic than Dex’s. 

Rory was perfect for Trina before that big ol' oaf Spencer showed up. Trina could have whipped that Rory right into shape as a good husband. lol

50 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

They delivered the shock and entertainment today lol

Was not expecting Dex to actually die I thought for sure he’d land in a coma. Bravo to the show and actor for not spoiling the surprise. Eden McCoy and Finola Hughes did solid work outside of his room while the staff tried to save Dex and so did Rebecca Herbst with the final scene contemplating how this could have happened. I never truly cared for the character so good riddance and I expect Joss will get Natalia’s son for a love interest next.

The fall out from the video reveal was great. Laura Wright, Jane Elliott and Wally Kurth carried the load here and did it well. Ned and Tracy cackling then reading Drew the riot act alongside BrookLynn was chefs kiss. Carly ripping Willow a new one after she tried shifting the blame to Michael for even having the video then going off on Drew was what I was waiting for 🔥 Then the ending with Carly catching Nina and Willow trying to run off with the kids? Love it, this is how I like my Caroline giving people HELL. Shout out to Cynthia Watros for the way she delivered the “This is war” warning line to Willow too.

Its unfortunate Michael is still written like such a simp because he felt like a background player the whole episode. I guess the writers were just as bored of Chad Duell as he has looked onscreen.

I hope they ditch the forced Trina aggravation at Kai for good because they were so much more interesting to watch today, loved the chemistry between them now that she’s not being such a nag.

Lulu and Dante also had some great scenes, I loved how they addressed Sam’s death and the banter over her breaking into Wyndemere. I could rock with this version of Lante if they go there

LOL’d at both Ric and Ava’s cards declining and Lucas having to come save them. This Cassadine’s stealing their money back plot could be interesting depending on who they have being behind it.

Solid episode overall I’m excited for Monday

Kristina

10 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

The football stuff was an okay way to get everyone around the tv but it definitely felt ham fisted. @ranger1rg I hadn’t even thought of the show copying All American for Kai and Trina but I think you are spot on with that, wow 😂

Ham fisted is right. And when Kai was interviewed and when Trina talked to Kai after the game, why did production lay an audio track under it that was of a game in progress?

Don't get me started on Trina having no clue about what a bowl game is.

 

10 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

The nanny cam video reveal was kind of clunky and I wish Michael had done it on purpose instead of Tracy awkwardly messing with the phone and screen casting it to the tv on accident. The show continues to run from Michael doing anything real villainous and I just don’t get it, especially considering recent news. Hopefully the fallout in the next episode is played out well.

Agree completely. Honestly, I was struck by the LOADS of hypocrisy in that room. Yes, The video was bad, but just about everyone in that room was guilty of something as bad -- or worse. I mean, come on.

And miss me with Joss and Trina stepping out of the room, as if it would be harmful for them to hear what happened. Yeah, I know Joss had to jet to the hospital and Trina to the stadium, buT still.

 

58 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

Was not expecting Dex to actually die I thought for sure he’d land in a coma

Dex's death was a surprise, and everyone does deserve applause for keeping that quiet. I guess we should have realized he was in deep trouble when we got romantic and sex scenes between Joss and Dex this week after seeing nothing for months. Typical bad soap writing.

Why Elizabeth is permitted ANYWHERE near Dex is a mystery considering what happened with Sam.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I have no idea what their plans are, but any attempt to make Joss a central heroine will fail. She's just not compelling or sympathetic.

I've said it before but I think Eden is tolerable in doses. She has great real BFF chemistry with Tabyana, she can be funny and I think can do screwball or vixen stuff but she can't be an A-lead. For that you would eventually need a recast. But I can handle her in a smaller role like she's had for much of the year. I don't want to deal with her howling and grieving for weeks or months.

I do think the PM era tried to make Dex and Joss more palatable to the writer's own tastes by moving him to a cop role, which IMO was the right thing for that character and he came off sincere and good-hearted in that arena with Anna, etc. But ultimately I never cared about Dex and won't miss him. It's time to do what OLTL '91 did: Purge! Start throwing up an opening sequence where 50-70% of the actors in it have already been fired! Here's what you do when you don't find the rainbow's end! Don't cry! 🪓🪓

I am shocked at just how many people they have gotten rid of this year. It felt like forever all we did was add characters left and right.

And I appreciate they are building a mystery for Liz, because that’s what a death should do. Propel story forward.

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I am shocked at just how many people they have gotten rid of this year. It felt like forever all we did was add characters left and right.

I agree. I was just saying how unusual it was for Frank. That said they haven't done nearly enough and they clearly didn't let PM purge anyone in the spring. Now they're doing a little with their back against the wall, I suspect. I still think the idiotic Sasha thing was largely to try to retrench/protect Sofia Mattsson in addition to giving Tristan a (bad) sendoff appeasing his fans, I hope I'm wrong re: Mattsson.

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And Cyrus gets to do it twice! First time with the Floating Rib bomb, then again up close and personal in the hospital.

It seems so stupid to have it be creaky old Cyrus again. I still think this will eventually tie back to Sidwell somehow. This show loves a cardboard character actor villain who lingers for years. But whatever, anything that gets rid of this shambling old man.

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

I agree. I was just saying how unusual it was for Frank. That said they haven't done nearly enough and they clearly didn't let PM purge anyone in the spring. Now they're doing a little with their back against the wall, I suspect. I still think the idiotic Sasha thing was largely to try to retrench/protect Sofia Mattsson in addition to giving Tristan a (bad) sendoff appeasing his fans, I hope I'm wrong re: Mattsson.

I wish we knew which characters Mulcahey would have gotten rid of compared to who is going now. I know you've speculated on Sasha. I still think Ava too, especially as the show seems to have no real plans for her and are for now riding the wave of Ric's return and the Kristina mess. I'm not sure if that was planned under Mulcahey or not. I suppose Ric Hearst and Alexa Havins cost a bit, at least compared to a Dex. Ric probably won't last much longer, but Lulu is probably staying, so hopefully that means a few more exits, like Drew.

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4 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

So glad you liked it! Just a little fun, but true!

Oh for sure. I will take glib over the opposite of it ANY DAY. 

 

4 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

It didn’t take long for CVE to revert to his old habits. He’s as allergic to drama as Josh Griffith is on Y&R.

Yep. Which is why I hope he pulls a JG and they just find Charlotte off screen without Val having to appear at all.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I suppose Ric Hearst and Alexa Havins cost a bit, at least compared to a Dex. Ric probably won't last much longer, but Lulu is probably staying, so hopefully that means a few more exits, like Drew.

I'm still not ready to blame the budget for these cast exits -- not when we get characters like the woman with the Euro-trash accent and a dozen jocks brawling in the park.