Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread

[BoldRestless]

It was funny how Jordan was taunting Nikki about how stupid she was to actually follow through with her plan.

[Soapsuds]

I laughed as well.

[Beachstorm]

Why do some think that Nikki wasn't really drunk at the cabin with Jordan? We have seen her drinking all the vodka. Just because she had a moment of clarity and smacked Jordan doesn't mean she hadn't been drinking alcohol, especially that bottle that Jordan gave to Nikki. Maybe Nikki was pretending to be as drunk as Jordan thought she was, but we know Nikki's been drinking the booze.

I read on another site that some think Nikki has been faking the vodka-drinking all this time. I don't think that at all.

[soapfan770]

I’ve been fairly critical of this whole story, but at least today it finally provided some entertainment value with the scenes between CZ and MTS. Not a bad episode at all.

[Contessa Donatella]

Uh, what would be the point? 

[YRfan23]

And we had something that resembled a decent cat fight with Nikki and Jordan too! 

So did I! Takes one to know one! But kudos to whoever wrote Jordan’s line: “that dumb son of yours!”

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[Joseph]

How that would be even possible?

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She's an alcoholic! 

Glad that if we are being forced to accept Claire, at least we were given a decent moment to provide Nikki With Forgiveness!

[DaytimeFan]

I believe Jess is open to working more and has better availability. The last few years were very hard for her as her late husband dealt with with a recurrence of cancer. She has since downsized from her ranch into a more manageable home and all of her grandchildren are no longer babies - she had been helping her children with them. 

[Beachstorm]

I can't explain it. I have no idea why some are saying that Nikki was faking her drinking. But I read it in more than one other forum.

[AMCHistory]

I hope if Jess comes back full time, the costume and hair department will get serious about her styling. She was looking stunning before COVID in her cameos, and now she looks like she came off the ranch and put on a dress from the 80’s. 
 

This is not Jill, and it is not Jess’s fault. Of all characters, her look needs to be sharp and to the point. She is not an off the rack person and never has been. She can still pull off glamour, we saw that in the last cast photo (not the recent one) where she was looking full Jill Abbott in a slinky dress and with her hair half up. 

J. Eddie as Cole really slipped rih

J. Eddie as Cole just slipped right back in. His chemistry with Amelia as Victoria is effortless, just like their days in AMC (one of the only bright spots from her run there). But gosh, he still looks and feels like the classic soap leading man. Is it his sharp cheekbones? Or those deep set eyes that you only saw in the best of the daytime hunks (see Don Diamont)

[kalbir]

Hahaha, yes.

[DaytimeFan]

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Indeed - this look proves that Jess remains ready for action as Jill, so long as hair, makeup, and the wardrobe department does their job.

This is probably the last time on the show where they didn't costume her as if she was styled by Chico's:

Jess has said her favourite time, style wise, for Jill was the 1990s when she was in her peplum suit era. That's all wardrobe has to do: rotate peplum suits and some decent jewelry. 

[Paul Raven]

To me he looks gaunt. i'd recommend fillers!

The wardrobe choices for most of the cast are generally poor,Jess is no exception.

[Soapsuds]

Agreed

 Interesting fact besides her initial premiere all of CZ episodes have been directed by Owen Renfroe.

[Contessa Donatella]

I looked him up on wikiwand. He's directed at Hollywood Heights, at GH, at GH:Night Shift & here. 

So, back when I stumbled on Colleen's new/then podcast with Dano she talked about the day they had just taped & said it would air on 12-26, which was yesterday, and, oh boy, what a day it was! Did you see all that stage combat?!! WHOA. It was as good as GH last year with Ava & Esme & that parapet! Do you think CZ & MTS had stunt doubles?

Also, dialog, superb. Everything at the cabin! All of the Newman family in support. Even the "idiot son". (I have a feeling that is gonna stick.) 

So, I am guessing that yesterday Nikki was faking being drunk, right? No, not any other time, just yesterday. 

I am now a happy camper soap fan newbie! The writing, directing & acting is very fine as of yesterday. 

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For now, I'll be sticking around. My watching schedule is this, The Doctors, GH & DAYS. (I'm also watching JULIA & I cannot get over how incredible Judith Light has been!)