My favorites were "Pyramid" and "Press Your Luck."  "Pyramid," because it was an opportunity to see B- and C-level celebrities pretend to care about helping "common folk" win money; and PYL, because it always cracked me up to see contestants take ten frigging minutes, hoping to get "nowhammynowhammynowhammynowhammy," only to press their button and - you guessed it - get whammied.

7 hours ago, Khan said:

"Pyramid," because it was an opportunity to see B- and C-level celebrities 

Also CBS daytime and primetime stars in cross-promotion.

The best cross-promotions were the Family Feud soap opera specials and The Price is Right soap themed showcases.

Edited January 23, 20241 yr by kalbir

Khan, I watched faithfully when Pyramid aired on ABC.   I believed (and still believed) that the celebrity guests were all genuine in wanting his or her partner to win as much money as possible.

The show, when it aired on ABC, was the first game show that I had ever seen which featured daytime performers.   Stephanie Braxton (The Secret Storm, All My Children, The Edge of Night) was the first one that I saw on that show.

I have never watched an episode of Press Your Luck, though.

CBS soap anniversaries in 2024

September 18 - Guiding Light finale 15th anniversary

 

CBS game show anniversaries in 2024

March 31 - Card Sharks finale 35th anniversary

June 1 - Tattletales finale 40th anniversary

June 4 - Body Language premiere 40th anniversary

July 17 - Wheel of Fortune premiere 35th anniversary

October 5 - Lets Make a Deal premiere 15th anniversary

Edited January 26, 20241 yr by kalbir

How many times did we read that soaps were going back to basics and focus on romance and familiar characters?

It never really happened.

On 2/24/2024 at 11:47 PM, Soapsuds said:

I had to LOL that this article started out gossiping about Saturday morning cartoons, especially on mentioning Snorks. 🤣Ah the joys of being an 80’s kid.

What I’m curious by is why did TVG think one of the game shows was a goner for the upcoming B&B? CBS had just ended the programming the 4PM slot, did someone think they could maybe save Capitol by moving it to a late AM timeslot? No way could I see TPIR getting bumped ahead at a time when the big three where already quietly turning back the 10AM ET slot back over the affiliates as well. 
 

Back to basics is laughable. And while not CBS related I will say poor Mary-Alise Recasener was pretty much done wrong by all the soaps she appeared on. 

30 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

What I’m curious by is why did TVG think one of the game shows was a goner for the upcoming B&B? CBS had just ended the programming the 4PM slot, did someone think they could maybe save Capitol by moving it to a late AM timeslot? No way could I see TPIR getting bumped ahead at a time when the big three where already quietly turning back the 10AM ET slot back over the affiliates as well. 

CBS had three daytime game shows as of September 29, 1986: 10 am ET $25000 Pyramid, 10:30 am ET Card Sharks, 11 am ET The Price is Right. If one of the game shows was going to go, I'd say $25000 Pyramid was the most likely.

Card Sharks was not going anywhere because Mark Goodson allegedly demanded CBS to give Card Sharks the lead in to The Price is Right, otherwise he'd take both shows to another network. Bill Bell also allegedly demanded that CBS give B&B the lead out from Y&R, otherwise he'd take both shows to another network. I don't think CBS was going to risk losing their two biggest daytime shows The Price is Right and Y&R.

So 1987 we could have gotten

10 am Capitol

10:30 am Card Sharks

11 am The Price is Right

noon Local programming

12:30 pm Y&R

1:30 pm B&B

2 pm As the World Turns

3 pm Guiding Light

As for 10 am ET, ABC didn't program anything in that slot from the 1970s onward AFAIK, NBC gave it up in 1991, and CBS gave it up in 1993.

5 hours ago, kalbir said:

CBS had three daytime game shows as of September 29, 1986: 10 am ET $25000 Pyramid, 10:30 am ET Card Sharks, 11 am ET The Price is Right. If one of the game shows was going to go, I'd say $25000 Pyramid was the most likely.

Card Sharks was not going anywhere because Mark Goodson allegedly demanded CBS to give Card Sharks the lead in to The Price is Right, otherwise he'd take both shows to another network. Bill Bell also allegedly demanded that CBS give B&B the lead out from Y&R, otherwise he'd take both shows to another network. I don't think CBS was going to risk losing their two biggest daytime shows The Price is Right and Y&R.

So 1987 we could have gotten

10 am Capitol

10:30 am Card Sharks

11 am The Price is Right

noon Local programming

12:30 pm Y&R

1:30 pm B&B

2 pm As the World Turns

3 pm Guiding Light

As for 10 am ET, ABC didn't program anything in that slot from the 1970s onward AFAIK, NBC gave it up in 1991, and CBS gave it up in 1993.

Did CBS aquire that 10am timeslot again for the Let's Make a Deal reboot or is LMAD just in GL's timeslot according to market. I ask because GL was on at 10am in NYC and that's the timeslot LMAD took over. Would make it sense to be paired back to back with TPIR. 

1 hour ago, GLATWT88 said:

Did CBS aquire that 10am timeslot again for the Let's Make a Deal reboot or is LMAD just in GL's timeslot according to market. I ask because GL was on at 10am in NYC and that's the timeslot LMAD took over. Would make it sense to be paired back to back with TPIR. 

Let's Make a Deal official time slot is 3 pm ET but I think its safe to say that the affiliates which aired GL in the morning just replaced it w/ LMaD.

On 3/3/2024 at 9:28 PM, GLATWT88 said:

Did CBS aquire that 10am timeslot again for the Let's Make a Deal reboot or is LMAD just in GL's timeslot according to market. I ask because GL was on at 10am in NYC and that's the timeslot LMAD took over. Would make it sense to be paired back to back with TPIR. 

CBS gives its affiliates the choice of LMAD at 10AM or 3 PM (ET).  For the most part, affiliates in the Eastern and Pacific time zones take the morning feed; the afternoon feed is more common in the Central and Mountain time zones.  LMAD tends to do better in the morning markets and yes, it is a perfect back-to-back combination with TPIR.

On 9/25/2023 at 10:46 AM, Matt Powers said:

There have been mentions of CAPITOL’s clearance dropping in 1986 and I was curious what the affiliates who didn’t carry the show did—did they just plug a 30 min syndicated show in that slot or did they time shift the other soaps? Such as moving Y&R back a half hour and just run ATWT and GL in pattern thereafter? 

WTVT, CBS in Tampa at the time (it's Fox now), had an hour-long newscast at noon.  It carried Y&R at 1, ATWT at 2, and GL at 3.  It also pre-empted B&B.  All of CBS's soaps began airing in pattern when the network switched to former ABC affiliate WTSP.

I can't remember the name of the program that pre-empted Capitol on KHOU Houston.

On 9/4/2023 at 1:57 PM, TVFAN1144 said:

On this date in 1972, CBS got back into the game show market with the premieres of Jokers Wild, The New Price is Right, and Gambit. They also changed schedules to put P and G soaps in one block 

Which was the death knell for Edge of Night on CBS.  Running at 2:30 (ET) it lost about half its audience--the men and teenage boys who had watched the show in the late afternoon but now couldn't make it home (and there were no VCRs then).  When CBS decided to expand ATWT to an hour in 1975, Edge's fate was sealed.  ABC, however, wanted Edge for several reasons.  One was to return it to late afternoon (4 PM ET), one was to get back the affiliates which had been pre-empting the game shows (Money Maze, You Don't Say!) that the network had been carrying (they were largely unsuccessful doing this), and one was because ABC had never had a Procter & Gamble show and wanted to work with them.  Edge tended to do better at 3 PM in the Central time zone.  But by the fall of 1984 the show was down to 106 out of 213 stations, and many of them were carrying Edge in the morning.  When 25 more stations said they were dropping Edge come January 1985, ABC and P&G threw in the towel.

On 9/1/2023 at 8:45 PM, kalbir said:

Also to beat Oprah.

Which is exactly why WRAL and WLKY put Y&R at 4.  WLKY still runs it at 4, but WRAL is an NBC affiliate now and the current CBS affiliate in Raleigh-Durham, WNCN, carries Y&R at 12:30 (even though it did run Y&R at 4 when it first became a CBS affiliate).

WTVF Nashville is one of the very few stations in the Central time zone to carry Y&R at 11:30.  It has a local show, Talk of the Town, at 11.  Their lineup:

 9 AM Newschannel 5

10 AM TPIR

11 AM Talk of the Town

11:30 Y&R

12:30 B&B

  1 PM The Talk

  2 PM LMAD

The only other CBS stations I know of that carry Y&R at 11:30 instead of 11 are three o&os:

KCBS Los Angeles, WBBM Chicago, and KTVT Dallas-Fort Worth; and KOLR Springfield, MO.

 

 

 

On 8/6/2023 at 8:14 PM, GLATWT88 said:

The best move would have been for Edge to go to NBC and placed right after AW.

It may have prevented AW's expansion - solving another NBC catastrophe. EON was an established soap, AW's lead in would have been good for Edge as AW's numbers were strong at the time of EON's transition. The most important factor would be clearance, but NBC seemed pretty good at that. Even low rated Texas and Doctors maintained strong clearance in spite of their numbers unlike soaps on the other networks. 

NBC tried that with the AW spinoff, Somerset, and even though it lasted almost seven years it never really held the AW audience.  Somerset was very similar to Edge with its emphasis on crime drama.  The problem was that in the '70s more and more affiliates began pre-empting their network's 4 PM show.  Given that pre-emptions eventually killed Edge on ABC, I'm not convinced that things would have been any different on NBC.

For years & years, WLEX aired Y&R at 9am a day behind because of hourlong news.  Then, for years and years, they'd bump Y&R to 1pm and aired B&B at 10:30.  

Speaking of WOST, which we were awhile back. I just found my 2 disk set of WOST soap themes. ©2004 AMC, AW, ATWT, DAYS, EON, B&B, DS, THE Doctors, Emmerdale, East Enders, GH, TGL, GL, Home & Away, LOL, LOVing, OLTL, Passions, Peyton Place, Prisoner Cell Block H, Ryan's Hope, Santa Barbara, SFT, Secret Storm, Somerset, Sunset Beach and Y&R. 

On 6/9/2024 at 10:21 AM, Contessa Donatella said:

Speaking of WOST, which we were awhile back. I just found my 2 disk set of WOST soap themes. ©2004 AMC, AW, ATWT, DAYS, EON, B&B, DS, THE Doctors, Emmerdale, East Enders, GH, TGL, GL, Home & Away, LOL, LOVing, OLTL, Passions, Peyton Place, Prisoner Cell Block H, Ryan's Hope, Santa Barbara, SFT, Secret Storm, Somerset, Sunset Beach and Y&R. 

I have that too!  Unfortunately, my Disc One is pretty much degraded at this point.  Would you be able to burn me a copy of yours if possible, please?  I miss all those EDGE themes in a row.