Members AbcNbc247 Posted January 25, 2023 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Yeah. I still can’t help but think that he’s got a problem with bisexuality and that’s why Allie being written so horribly. Just like Evan before her. And to a lesser extent, Chanel, when the other actress was in the role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Fixed! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted January 25, 2023 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hahaha Maybe he does also have a problem with gay guys who aren’t like Leo Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members px780 Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 I really liked Allie at first, partly because I grew up loving Sami and had expectations for her kids, but I think they never really had an idea of what to do with her. To me she's had very little agency, like stuff just happens to her. It's weird and boring. It's too bad they like the actor who plays Alex more than the one who plays Tripp, because as meh as I am about him, I think Tripp would've been the better character for this plot point. I hope they're going to do something ridiculously big with the devil, like make the whole stupid flower saga a delusion he created to mess with Marlena. Like, let's get through it then jump back to the scene where the Black/Brady clan prayed the devil put of her, as though she was in a different universe. Make it a bit Dark Shadows, in a way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carolineg Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 I agree so much with this. Things do just happen to her and she's so insecure about things, but the show doesn't play on why and there are reasons why. She justs comes off bitter without reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Oh dear... Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 I guess I'm in the minority, but I like what they're doing with Allie right now. As others have pointed out, they brought on the character with an attitude and a sense of drive, and then she just sort of... existed. There really hasn't been an Allie outside of her relationships with Tripp and Chanel in a while. (Does she struggle with mothering a young child and running a business? We wouldn't know!) So using the death of her beloved grandmother to kickstart some bitterness and acting out for her works for me. Johnny punched out Tripp because of the loss of both his grandmas. Allie got snippy with Chanel and Johnny, because of her grief and insecurity. She's like 22 years old. That feels human and believable to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Johnny punching out Tripp was ridiculous! He was the one that was all over her a$$. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wingwalker Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Even Zach knew the Leo/Sonny story was crap! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joseph Posted January 25, 2023 Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 Dumb and My God I'm Wordless! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted January 25, 2023 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Seriously though, Father Eric is a machine Please register in order to view this content I liked Tripp and Johnny today. As much as I want them to hate each other, I wouldn't mind seeing them as besties either. They both could really use a platonic friend anyway. And yeah, I admit that I don't really like Allie anymore, but I am enjoying the storyline. Like @Michaelsaid, it's real and believable. And as mean as Allie comes off, I still think Lindsay Arnold is doing a good job. This is the storyline that needed to happen from the very beginning. Idk why they basically stopped it in order to do that stupid crap with Sloan's mother. Hahahahaha What an intelligent young man he is Exactly. That's why I'm hoping that Tripp gets weaved into their storyline as well. Edited January 26, 2023 by AbcNbc247 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 Zach doesn't say much about Days online like others do. Glad he thought Sonny 180 on Leo was ridiculous but he said it nicer. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 Leo is a vile character. It's telling that even the cast members are not able to stop themselves from speaking up about the hoops jumped through to try to keep him on the canvas. Carlivati is so delusional and stubborn, he will not let this character go. At a time when violence against lgbt people, including gay men, is piling up, on the streets, in the courts, pulpits, and state legislatures, he puts an ugly stereotype front and center, year in, year out. He did this on GH too. Irna Phillips could probably do a better job with a gay character, and she died 50 years ago. Representation, my ass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) They'd absolutely be pairing them up if Tinker wasn't out. I wouldn't assume it won't happen in future. Somewhere along the way Ron decided that camp and bitchy characters, or irredeemable villains, are simply another way he can show his skill and force his will on the audience to make them accept the unacceptable. This started with the rapemance on OLTL and he's been doubling down with many characters since. Almost all of the 'good'-typed characters on a show (who he in the past wrote very well) are classed all as either boring or hypocrites, while Leo/Gwen/Obrecht/Ben/Victor/et al are bold truthtellers who deep down have hearts of gold and must be embraced by those to whom they've done wrong. And it's too bad, because his conception of LGBT characters IMO used to be a lot more nuanced. Today you're just waiting for the next two-dimensional stereotype which Ron then pretends is simply 'queer and proud'. I don't have a problem with loud gay characters or edgy characters; I have a problem when that's all they are, and when they do terrible things and then the show tries to meme its way through it. Case in point: Leo. Edited January 26, 2023 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j swift Posted January 26, 2023 Members Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) I'm a bit more conflicted on this issue. While I think @Vee's response to the LGBTQ characters is a good point that is well made. This week I am also appreciating the nuances in the writing of Nicole and Eric. There is more complexity in their struggle to maintain relationships, and an adherence to a morals, with their inner demons. I never like when a show is intentionally campy. That sort of humor should be the domain of the audience in terms of a reaction to earnest drama (like we've been discussing with Y&R's historic use of music). And I cringe when a show tries to be "in" on the joke as a means of seeming cool or hip. But, I don't want to dismiss this period of writing when we also get these heterosexual couples that explore a more progressive approach to sex. Although, I also appreciate the irony that it is the one thing that I like from the most successful out gay head writer in daytime. Edited January 26, 2023 by j swift 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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