29 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Would the show have been better off doing what Paper Dolls did when that show went to series....which was retell the story from the start?

I don't think so.  I don't think there was anything wrong with picking up where the original miniseries left off.  Again, I think the problem was that too many actors' roles had to be recast once it went to the series, and the replacements paled in comparison.  Frankly, they would have been better off leaving well enough alone.

On 4/2/2022 at 11:48 PM, Khan said:

I don't think so.  I don't think there was anything wrong with picking up where the original miniseries left off.  Again, I think the problem was that too many actors' roles had to be recast once it went to the series, and the replacements paled in comparison.  Frankly, they would have been better off leaving well enough alone.

Yeah, I mean most characters were designed with someone in mind then almost everyone was recast, let's Face It, it wasn't a question of lack on talent by anyone it was not being fit for the shoe you would fill, Jaime Lyn Bauer might've worked with time, Jennifer O'Neill too but she was too Young and Not The Least Similar to Genie to play her mother, Jessica Walter was tooooooooo young too etc.

By THe Way The Pilot Miniseries is now full on youtube

 

On 4/2/2022 at 9:16 PM, Paul Raven said:

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where this gold came from?

@Joseph those screen caps are from the opening credits when the show went to series, or at least, the opening credits of the German dub found on YouTube. I’ve wondered if the Sarah Vaughan song by Billy Goldenberg from the miniseries was used for the series.

I’m not far into it, but I finally started the mini series and this is *so* good. I feel like I’m going to regret it because this will make me want to find the series even more.
 

It’s so odd seeing Linda Evans outside of the static acting and perfection of Krystle Carrington. 

3 hours ago, Chris B said:

It’s so odd seeing Linda Evans outside of the static acting and perfection of Krystle Carrington. 

I ain't saying Linda Evans is a brilliant actress, but she was far more capable than the dross that they always wrote for her on DYNASTY.

As a miniseries, BE was pretty good, with good casting and a strong story.  It's just should have stayed as a miniseries, lol.

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Linda Evan's had a character she could sink her teeth into.  A flawed character that had both positive and negative traits.

The story I was most liking was the 2 designers finding their way back to one another.  Mini series used to have fun b and c stories that interested me more than the A story.

12 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

The story I was most liking was the 2 designers finding their way back to one another.

Ah, yes.  Matt and Melody Phillips.  IIRC, too, Matt and Melody realized how much they still loved each other after she was beaten nearly to death by some dude she was seeing.

It's been SO long since I watched Bare Essence, but just the first five minutes took me right back to the first time I saw it! That sweeping arrangement of the theme as the camera chases up the beach...flawless. I'll definitely be sinking my teeth back into this again tomorrow as a nice post-holiday viewing.

I honestly forget that they made a series out of it lol obviously we all "want" to see it, but at the same time, I feel like there's no big huge loss in not seeing it. The mini is perfect all by itself.

Lee Grant! Did she ever do another primetime soap (not counting Peyton Place)?

20 minutes ago, Vee said:

Lee Grant! Did she ever do another primetime soap (not counting Peyton Place)?

I don't think she did.  But she should have!

I could see her coming aboard DYNASTY, for example, as some long-ago love of Blake's, with love child in tow.

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The full series used to be on YouTube. I tried to follow along but lost patience as it was dubbed in German, which I do not speak. Jessica Walter appeared to be a fine replacement for Lee Grant, just wish I could have heard her. We all know she was Esther Shapiro’s choice for Alexis, and her Ava is certainly styled in the Alexis vein, often seen talking on her mod chrome and lucite sphere phone while smoking white 120’s.

WaPo review of the series debut: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1983/02/15/such-gloss-such-dross-its-bare-essence/99912ded-56e3-4956-befe-b3225ac57abe/

On 4/17/2022 at 9:49 AM, Chris B said:

I’m not far into it, but I finally started the mini series and this is *so* good. I feel like I’m going to regret it because this will make me want to find the series even more.
 

It’s so odd seeing Linda Evans outside of the static acting and perfection of Krystle Carrington. 

good writing vs bad writing huh?🤭

I wouldn't say the BE miniseries was or is an example of GOOD writing, lol, but I do think it was overall more engrossing than what was coming from DYNASTY around that time.

On 4/17/2022 at 9:38 PM, Vee said:

Lee Grant! Did she ever do another primetime soap (not counting Peyton Place)?

NO, The Nearest she got was a TV Film/Miniseries called The Million Dollar Face from 1981 that sounded like a Pilot

On 4/17/2022 at 9:51 PM, Khan said:

I don't think she did.  But she should have!

I could see her coming aboard DYNASTY, for example, as some long-ago love of Blake's, with love child in tow.

Ha, i always pictured that secretary of Cecil's Being that LOL, i mean Cecil's ex with a love child by him who would eventually try to fight for a piece of the fortune 

18 minutes ago, Khan said:

I wouldn't say the BE miniseries was or is an example of GOOD writing, lol, but I do think it was overall more engrossing than what was coming from DYNASTY around that time.

After maybe the third season, you can’t even convince me that was a real person playing Krystle and not a robot. I don’t think anybody gave up as much as Linda lol.