5 minutes ago, Vee said:

They don't need to introduce another lesbian or bi woman to pair with Mariah. They just don't want to pair her with any eligible men bc they have other female stars the network and showrunners find more attractive and viable, despite Grimes' popularity with the longtime audience. They consider her a frump and not lead material. It's obvious. Bullshít but obvious.

 

Their motivation behind the storyline decisions for Mariah are so warped and imo, it's more of their perception of her looks, based on the fact that she's not a size 0 (The inverse seems to be the reason why they constantly have Lily, in lingerie, sexing up these men who look noticeably older than her). Whenever I've seen CG outside of Y&R, she always looks pretty.

It makes me wonder how Heather Tom would have been treated had she stayed with Y&R. I remember an interview many years ago, in which Tom said that someone commented on her weight, as if to suggest that she was overweight, to which Heather remarked "I'm a size 4!"

 

It often makes me wonder-- who exactly does Y&R think they're writing for? I mean, who is their audience? 

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It often makes me wonder-- who exactly does Y&R think they're writing for? I mean, who is their audience?

People who think women need to vamp it up  in 'sexy' lingerie to please their men.

1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

People who think women need to vamp it up  in 'sexy' lingerie to please their men.

 

Are those people watching the Young and The Restless though? Or maybe Cinemax after dark? 🙃

 

It would be like today's daytime soaps to write stories for the viewers least likely to watch. Very much 'on brand'.

Edited April 26, 20214 yr by DramatistDreamer

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Are those people watching the Young and The Restless though? Or maybe Cinemax after dark? 🙃

 

It would be like today's daytime soaps to write stories for the viewers least likely to watch. Very much 'on brand'.

 

Yes. FB comments tell the tale. I read one that said, "I hope Lily doesn't lose Billy." Most viewers seem to have antiquated ideas. 

 

 

Lily looks great in that sparkly dress.

 

Y&R has a lot more energy lately (actual conflict) and seems to have stabilized in the ratings (recently beating TPIR in both ad demos), but it’s still pretty bad. This is likely the best it’ll get for the foreseeable future. 

Did Moses really have a chat with Nick before ever meeting his sister Lily?

 

The story surrounding Kyle’s secret is oddly constructed. Why is Kyle hiding the paternity of Harrison from Jack of all people? Like I’m not waiting on pins and needles anticipating how Jack will respond...

Edited April 26, 20214 yr by Faulkner

13 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Yes. FB comments tell the tale. I read one that said, "I hope Lily doesn't lose Billy." Most viewers seem to have antiquated ideas. 

 

 

 

Viewers can be "trained" if the storytelling is considerate. It's kind of like what @FrenchBug82
was saying, the old style of more methodical ("slower") storytelling had this advantage over what soaps do today.  I'd agree with that. The viewers had more time to gradually adjust to a new paradigm. It's how vixens and vamps could become heroines and vice versa. Jill Foster Abbott is one of the best examples of this. Nina Webster is another. The storytelling doesn't have to be plodding or very slow but a decent amount of investment of time and energy needs to be committed. I wish they would, I mean, they're already on air...why not? 🤷🏾‍♀️

10 hours ago, Faulkner said:

 

 

Y&R has a lot more energy lately (actual conflict)

Ikr?

Karla is just a temp, so of course hasn’t had time to embody the character, but it just emphasized to me how much Mishael’s charisma and emotional clarity bring really flat, dull dialogue to life. She is a rare talent.

1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

Karla is just a temp, so of course hasn’t had time to embody the character, but it just emphasized to me how much Mishael’s charisma and emotional clarity bring really flat, dull dialogue to life. She is a rare talent.

Which brings me to the point I made in an earlier thread to much blowback.
There is nothing to Amanda other than MM being very talented. So I am glad she is around but the writing needs to give Amanda *something* because I am incapable of figuring out who she is and why I should care other than I like the actress at this stage.

Are they doing Philly again? I liked that scene with MS and JT.

4 hours ago, Dylan said:

Are they doing Philly again? I liked that scene with MS and JT.

The scenes weren’t that bad at all. However  how many hotel owners just sit their lobby drinking alcohol all day LOL.

 

The show has some momentum again finally even though almost all of the stories are lousy overall. 

10 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

The scenes weren’t that bad at all. However  how many hotel owners just sit their lobby drinking alcohol all day LOL.

 

The show has some momentum again finally even though almost all of the stories are lousy overall. 

I'm happy the three week arcs are done at the very least. 😂

 

I'm actually enjoying the stories though, I really like Ashland Locke. Lol

Edited April 28, 20214 yr by Dylan

10 minutes ago, Dylan said:

I'm happy the three week arcs are done at the very least. 😂

Except for Chelsea in that wheelchair, that story keeps dragging out. Has she even changed her clothes in the last five months?

 

Still interested in the mystery of Amanda’s father today it was good seeing Karla again on screen. 
 

Ashland and Tara haven’t been that bad but Kyle and Summer definitely have been the weakest links. Victor pulling an old school power play move out of his book was actually more fun that I thought it was going to be nor was as offensive as other things he has pulled. 

 

12 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Except for Chelsea in that wheelchair, that story keeps dragging out. Has she even changed her clothes in the last five months?

 

Still interested in the mystery of Amanda’s father today it was good seeing Karla again on screen. 
 

Ashland and Tara haven’t been that bad but Kyle and Summer definitely have been the weakest links. Victor pulling an old school power play move out of his book was actually more fun that I thought it was going to be nor was as offensive as other things he has pulled. 

 

It's certainly better than having Victor go on about The Price is Right. LOL