Here is a thread for December spoilers. Here are some for tomorrow from soaps.com day ahead recap:

 

Fen is going to meet Lola at Jabot and flirt with her. Later on he will meet Kyle at Crimson Lights and they will catch up. Fen will ask about Summer and tell Kyle that he has his eye on someone he just met in GC. He will find out that Lola and Kyle are dating. He will say that he will wait until Kyle messes things up with Lola, so he can get a chance with her. Him and Kyle will spar verbally with each other. Fen will also give his demo tape to Mariah.

 

Also, Nikki will fear that Victor is missing, once she can't get in contact with him, after the fire happens. Victoria, and Nick will think that Rey knows more about Victor's situation that he's letting on. And Devon will come home with a hangover that Nate/Ana try to help him with. Nate will end up leaving and Devon/ Ana will talk about his grief over losing Hilary and the baby. Devon will agree to get therapy.

 

It looks like they might be trying to do a Kyle/Lola/Fen triangle. I was hoping they might try Fen and Ana. I do think they will be interacting together since he's trying to get signed by Hamilton-Winters. But maybe that will just be professional for right now. I do wonder what they will end up doing with Ana, in addition to her trying to help Devon and working as his assistant.

Edited December 3, 20186 yr by xtr

8 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Everybody loves Lola. Ana gets nothing.

Ana will get to play the whore to virgin Lola. Kyle will fall into bed with her with no courtship to hurt Lola. Wait on it...

5 hours ago, xtr said:

I saw Monday's episode. Lola is coming across as a jerk. People at the party were getting the impression that Kyle may have done something really wrong to her, because of the way she was acting about him calling her. Arturo believed that, though Abby told him to take it easy on Kyle, and Ana said that she thought that Kyle seemed like a  nice guy and Lola didn't seem to be over him. Lola didn't have any regards for Kyle's feelings when she was kissing Fen at the party, she seemed to be into that kiss.

 

 

 

 

I feel bad for Kyle. He deserves better,  Granted, I don't believe that her and Fen will last long, and I don't think they are going to end very well. But I still wish Kyle would wise up and try and leave her alone. Also, Fen is still building up a rapport with Ana, and at the party he was trying to get her to reveal to Devon she was the songwriter. Fen/Ana have good chemistry and look good together. I think he will realize that whatever ends up having with Lola won't have much substance to it, and they will end things. It looks like though like Kyle/Fen might be fighting for her for a bit, because next week, they are arguing about Lola in some scenes. 

 

I believe that the writers are making a mistake on how they are writing Lola. Right now, there isn't any depth to her. She's really immature and is seriously lacking substance. The way she is treating Kyle who has treated her very well is very offputting.

 

Wait, so the entire party revolved around Lola? I'm trying to figure out why most of those people are even at his house. 

3 hours ago, xtr said:

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think she's really going to  be his second choice.I think this might be a case of him getting with someone and then realizing there is someone better for him in Ana. I think Fen will end up having much deeper feelings for Ana, than he will for Lola  Right now her and Fen are friends, and while I believe they are attracted to each other, she's not heavily pining after him. I think Fen/Ana will be treated as friends who are growing closer while Fen tries to clumsily date Lola. I believe he will fall in love with Ana, and that the groundwork is being laid for that.

 

They are establishing a good connection with each other. I think that Lola might be a detour relationship and/or just something to help create angst for Kyle/Lola. At this point, Lola barely knows Fen and is using him to get back at Kyle. I don't know how much deeper their relationship will get than that. And IMO Fen isn't  better for her than Kyle is. I could see Fen eventually catching wind of that and ending the relationship.

 

I am interested in seeing Ana's reaction to the Lola/Fen kiss. I would be fine if she wasn't really bothered by it or only a little miffed about it. On Monday's episode, she didn't really seem upset that Fen wanted to get close to Lola. Though, there was a nice moment when Fen complimented how Ana looked and she pushed up her hair after said it and walked away. I wonder how strong her reaction might be when she learns they kissed.

 

I've seen a few scenes. Loren doesn't play Ana romantically interested in Fen. Though the actor who plays Fen does play it that way. 

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

Ana will get to play the whore to virgin Lola. Kyle will fall into bed with her with no courtship to hurt Lola. Wait on it...

 

Wait, so the entire party revolved around Lola? I'm trying to figure out why most of those people are even at his house. 

 

I've seen a few scenes. Loren doesn't play Ana romantically interested in Fen. Though the actor who plays Fen does play it that way. 

 

Devon  told Ana wanted to have the party to end the horrible year he had in a positive way. . He invites Cane because he doesn't think that Cane should be alone and knows Cane is struggling without Lily. I think most of the rest of the people he invited are people that he's friends with/is friendly enough with to be around. Abby and her bf Arturo, Lola who he hired and Fen who he's working with. Abby/Ana decided that Kyle should be invited, (And Abby reached out to him to invite him) after they found out that Lola broke up with him.

 

Also, I do think that Ana has shown she is attracted to Fen at times, like when she first met him at the dinner that Lola cooked at the penthouse. Fen even mentioned he thought she was attracted to him and Lola told him "good go get her number". Though, I will say she didn't seem bothered by him trying to talk to Lola.  I do like how mature Ana is, and how it doesn't seem like she's pining over him." I wouldn't be surprised if she isn't really bothered that much (if really at all about) the kiss that he shares with Lola on Monday. I could see Fen falling for her (Ana) first and falling hard.

 

And both Fen and Ana did seem interested in the conversation that Kyle and Lola were having at the party about their issues. Ana also mentioned to Abby that Kyle seemed like a nice guy. Though, if something were to happen with Ana/Kyle, I do think that they would date each other. I don't think that she would just fall into bed with him. She seems to mature to do that, especially since she can probably see that he really cares for Lola.

 

 I think that Lola will end up looking the worst in this whole situation. She is the one who initiated that kiss with Fen. He was actually reaching in for a hug and she turned it into a kiss. Right now she is really mistreating Kyle and using Fen. There is a spoiler from SOD's 2019 Previews that say that Michael and Lauren will struggle on trying not to tell Fen what to do as he's learning some life lessons. I think that some of those lessons may come from him wasting his time with Lola and her drama with Kyle. 

Edited December 29, 20186 yr by xtr

9 hours ago, xtr said:

I think Fen/Ana will be treated as friends who are growing closer while Fen tries to clumsily date Lola.

 

Right. Second choice of a second choice.

11 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Ana deserves better than to be the second choice of a second choice.

 

I hope they don't write Ana was waiting around for goofy Fen (yeah, he's kinda cute but he also looks goofy, lol). 

 

Lemme stop, I'm not even watching this show, lol.

9 hours ago, xtr said:

 

Devon  told Ana wanted to have the party to end the horrible year he had in a positive way. . He invites Cane because he doesn't think that Cane should be alone and knows Cane is struggling without Lily. I think most of the rest of the people he invited are people that he's friends with/is friendly enough with to be around. Abby and her bf Arturo, Lola who he hired and Fen who he's working with. Abby/Ana decided that Kyle should be invited, (And Abby reached out to him to invite him) after they found out that Lola broke up with him.

 

Also, I do think that Ana has shown she is attracted to Fen at times, like when she first met him at the dinner that Lola cooked at the penthouse. Fen even mentioned he thought she was attracted to him and Lola told him "good go get her number". Though, I will say she didn't seem bothered by him trying to talk to Lola.  I do like how mature Ana is, and how it doesn't seem like she's pining over him." I wouldn't be surprised if she isn't really bothered that much (if really at all about) the kiss that he shares with Lola on Monday. I could see Fen falling for her (Ana) first and falling hard.

 

And both Fen and Ana did seem interested in the conversation that Kyle and Lola were having at the party about their issues. Ana also mentioned to Abby that Kyle seemed like a nice guy. Though, if something were to happen with Ana/Kyle, I do think that they would date each other. I don't think that she would just fall into bed with him. She seems to mature to do that, especially since she can probably see that he really cares for Lola.

 

 I think that Lola will end up looking the worst in this whole situation. She is the one who initiated that kiss with Fen. He was actually reaching in for a hug and she turned it into a kiss. Right now she is really mistreating Kyle and using Fen. There is a spoiler from SOD's 2019 Previews that say that Michael and Lauren will struggle on trying not to tell Fen what to do as he's learning some life lessons. I think that some of those lessons may come from him wasting his time with Lola and her drama with Kyle. 

 

 

Devon is just meeting both these people. I don't see why he'd invite them. I can see why Ana would invite Fen and Abby would invite Arturo's sister. But Devon doesn't have a relationship with either of these people. It's a writing issue that he doesn't. They have not given him the scenes. Mariah and Tessa would get an invite from him though. Those folks are in Devon's house to facilitate their story. 

 

That mention about attraction from Fen and Lola saying get her number, could have just been him trying to make her jealous and Lola not taking the bait. I didn't see it though. 

 

It'd make no sense for that young set to have two women who aren't sexual active. I can't imagine they'd do that. Mal dares anything though so who knows. I just think it's wishful thinking on your part that Ana won't be permiscuous. Though I hope you're right. 

 

Lola is their ingenue, which comes across as a Mary Sue. She's not gonna look bad unless they change her characterization. 

47 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

 

Devon is just meeting both these people. I don't see why he'd invite them. I can see why Ana would invite Fen and Abby would invite Arturo's sister. But Devon doesn't have a relationship with either of these people. It's a writing issue that he doesn't. They have not given him the scenes. Mariah and Tessa would get an invite from him though. Those folks are in Devon's house to facilitate their story. 

 

That mention about attraction from Fen and Lola saying get her number, could have just been him trying to make her jealous and Lola not taking the bait. I didn't see it though. 

 

It'd make no sense for that young set to have two women who aren't sexual active. I can't imagine they'd do that. Mal dares anything though so who knows. I just think it's wishful thinking on your part that Ana won't be permiscuous. Though I hope you're right. 

 

Lola is their ingenue, which comes across as a Mary Sue. She's not gonna look bad unless they change her characterization. 

 

I don't think that Ana will be promiscuous even if she does end up sleeping with Kyle.I don't see Ana running around sleeping with a bunch of men or anything like that. If she sleeps with Kyle, I do believe they will be at least dating each other. 

 

I do wonder if Kyle will end up falling in bed with someone he really doesn't care about to try and get over Lola. ( I had thought earlier like maybe somebody like Mia). I also wonder if Lola might actually end up sleeping with Fen and then regretting it afterwards. Maybe she thinks that "blue collar" Fen is a good fit with her, ends up sleeping with him and feels bad about it, because she realizes she doesn't really care about him that much. I wouldn't rule that out because she's so immature. I also wonder how she will handle the issue of her virginity with Fen, should she date him. 

 

Also, while these places are definitely not an indicator of all viewers, Lola is currently being very strongly criticized on places like Twitter and different soaps forums. People are also tweeting the actress and saying negative things about Lola. People are really put off by her crappy treatment of Kyle and I think it will get worse. Especially after more people see Monday's episode and if she continues to treat Kyle poorly. The writers might have a way they want her viewed, but IMO the way they are writing her right now is damaging to her character. And it's turning several viewers off from her.

Edited December 29, 20186 yr by xtr

27 minutes ago, xtr said:

 

I don't think that Ana will be promiscuous even if she does end up sleeping with Kyle.I don't see Ana running around sleeping with a bunch of men or anything like that. If she sleeps with Kyle, I do believe they will be at least dating each other. 

 

I do wonder if Kyle will end up falling in bed with someone he really doesn't care about to try and get over Lola. ( I had thought earlier like maybe somebody like Mia). I also wonder if Lola might actually end up sleeping with Fen and then regretting it afterwards. Maybe she thinks that "blue collar" Fen is a good fit with her, ends up sleeping with him and feels bad about it, because she realizes she doesn't really care about him that much. I wouldn't rule that out because she's so immature. I also wonder how she will handle the issue of her virginity with Fen, should she date him. 

 

Also, while these places are definitely not an indicator of all viewers, Lola is currently being very strongly criticized on places like Twitter and different soaps forums. People are also tweeting the actress and saying negative things about Lola. People are really put off by her crappy treatment of Kyle and I think it will get worse. Especially after more people see Monday's episode and if she continues to treat Kyle poorly. The writers might have a way they want her viewed, but IMO the way they are writing her right now is damaging to her character. And it's turning several viewers off from her.

 

If Ana sleeps with Kyle soon after meeting him or on their first few dates, yes, she's painted as permiscuous. We shall see though. They may not even go there with Kyle and another woman. 

 

Writers intent and how viewers take it, sometimes are not aligned. 

Next week I read some more spoilers that mention Kyle/Fen are supposed to be arguing regarding Lola. Kyle is supposed to say that Fen doesn't understand Lola and Fen will say she doesn't belong to him. Kyle is also going to be asking Lola for another chance. I could see him trying to fight Fen for her for a bit, before maybe he gives up for the time being and does something else.

 

Also, I saw a spoiler (from the zapit2soaps column) that said that Abby will have an issue with Mariah and will take her to task about it. I wonder what that spoiler is about. There is also another spoiler that says that Arturo will be tempted. I think that might be related to Mia.

not sure how long it will take but I expect Ana to become the Hillary PTB always wanted - a female character that can play off of Bryton w/o having to worry about there being any sort of sexual component and Devon can be the Asexual being they've always wanted. 

 

Cane/Victoria is absolutely disgusting, btw. The fact that these characters have no personal boundaries is such a turn off. Also, this show stays making Cane one of the grossest romantic male "leads" I've ever seen. Yikes! 

15 hours ago, dio said:

not sure how long it will take but I expect Ana to become the Hillary PTB always wanted - a female character that can play off of Bryton w/o having to worry about there being any sort of sexual component and Devon can be the Asexual being they've always wanted. 

 

Cane/Victoria is absolutely disgusting, btw. The fact that these characters have no personal boundaries is such a turn off. Also, this show stays making Cane one of the grossest romantic male "leads" I've ever seen. Yikes! 

 

Exactly. That's exactly what's happening here with Devon. I see Ana having the same story with bryton than Hilary had. Just no romance involved. It's already happening with the work story. 

3 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Exactly. That's exactly what's happening here with Devon. I see Ana having the same story with bryton than Hilary had. Just no romance involved. It's already happening with the work story. 

 

they will just keep Devon's dating/personal life off-canvas, and Ana will bring the scheming drama while Devon plays her conscious or whatever, always wanting her to do better, be better - and she will want to for her bro, but nah, etc. 

 

 PTB's interest in Devon/Hillary was half-hearted at best and only used to massage their fanbase. If MM had stayed on I expect she would have been paired w/ Jack by now, having already had hate-sex with Nate. 🙄

18 minutes ago, dio said:

 

they will just keep Devon's dating/personal life off-canvas, and Ana will bring the scheming drama while Devon plays her conscious or whatever, always wanting her to do better, be better - and she will want to for her bro, but nah, etc. 

 

 PTB's interest in Devon/Hillary was half-hearted at best and only used to massage their fanbase. If MM had stayed on I expect she would have been paired w/ Jack by now, having already had hate-sex with Nate. 🙄

 

Not jack. But Nate was cast specifically as Hilary's next love interest. 

 

The show never committed to Hevon. Ever. And I wish I knew why. 

 

I keep telling Hevon fans and Devon fans that if TPTB was interested in Devon in that way, Loren would never have been cast as Ana. She would have been his love interest.  Soaps do not keep romantic leads single no matter what happens.  They want Devon to have story but not to have a love life. 

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

And I wish I knew why.

 

You know why.

Here are a few more spoilers from the zapit2soaps column.

 

Devon is going to give a hungover Cane a pep talk. Cane will tell Jill that he thinks he's a bad husband.  And Lola will agree to take Kyle back after he gets into a fight with Fen.

 

I hope that Lola actually admits she was wrong for overreacting but I wouldn't be surprised if she made it seem like Kyle was wrong for giving her the gift. I think that right now they don't have a healthy dynamic in their relationship and he has to walk on egg shells around her. He tries so hard to please her and she is mistreating him. I wonder if that behavior will continue after they get back together. I also wonder if Fen will try and break them up after they get back together, because Lola has kissed him and that gives him hope. Though, she was using Fen.

According to spoilers (including spoilers from soaps.com day ahead recap) on  tomorrow's episode Nate, Victor and Nick will all be arrested and taken to the police station. They will be facing kidnapping charges. Rey and Christine will interrogate them. They will decide to not to press charges against Nate and Nick but will bring charges against Victor for the murder of JT.

 

Also tomorrow is the day that Cane kisses Victoria. Their scenes are going to be intense. Victoria is going to go over to the Ashby home and try and blame Charlie for the accident. Her and Cane will argue about Reed/Charlie and their roles in the accident. She will tell Cane that Charlie is just like him.  She will then lay into Cane, and tell him he is a bad father and a bad husband. She will also bring up how he tried to cover up Lily's role in Hilary's death. She will blame him for Brash and Sassy going under. She will talk about Lily quite a bit and will tell him that his marriage to Lily is awful.

 

She will also say that Lily is braver than him and that Lily deserves better than him. Cane will accuse her of being jealous of his and Lily's relationship, and says they have a real one. He will then ask her how many boyfriends, fiancees/husbands she's had since she met him. Cane will also say he believes that JT isn't dead but that he's just hiding off the grid so he doesn't have to deal with Victoria. At the very end Cane will say that Victoria thinks that everyone is cold and empty like she is and then they will kiss each other intensely.

 

Also, before Victoria goes over to see Cane, she will tell Billy about the accident. Billy will think that Reed will deserve to face the consequences for his actions but will support Victoria in the situation.

Edited January 1, 20196 yr by xtr