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12 minutes ago, Khan said:

There are two things that I remember about "Alice in Wonderland":

1) Donna Mills played a rose; and

2) the kid who played Alice was a royal PITA to watch. (And I was like, what, six years old at that time, lol?)

The flowers were total frienemies to one another!

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On 3/1/2025 at 6:39 AM, Paul Raven said:

As the 84/75 season progressed the A Team held strong but  WTB was growing.

eg by April 85 A Team was #16 WTB was #27 and 3s A Crowd was #36

Wk ending May 5 A Team was back to #10 but WTB was up to #16 3s A Crowd was #36 so WTB was on fire.

Interestingly when ABC announced their fall line up Diff'rent Strokes scheduled for 8pm Tues

He's The Mayor 8.30 WTB Tues 9pm and Growing Pains 9.30

Changing the Tues lineup worked for ABC. In the new season WTB/Pains/Moonlighting beat A Team/Riptide from the get go.

 

DS being originally scheduled for Tues at 8, explains why it was a decision between renewing Three's A Crowd or picking up DS. I would've renewed 3AC and paired it up with Suzanne Sommers/ John Davidson starrer "Goodbye, Charlie." I guess GC was close to being picked up before ABC passed. The pilot is up on YT and I enjoyed it. Def better than She's the Sherrif.

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1 hour ago, Khan said:

There are two things that I remember about "Alice in Wonderland":

1) Donna Mills played a rose; and

2) the kid who played Alice was a royal PITA to watch. (And I was like, what, six years old at that time, lol?)

LOL! As a whole though the Alice books seem to be a difficult thing to adapt to live action television. Like what 14-15 years later NBC tried yet another miniseries along the same lines and the reception was just as divisive as I recall.

I do actually remember that week’s Amazing Stories episode “Santa 85” vividly mainly because seeing Santa get arrested at that age was a bit shocking 🤣 That said, I thought it was a fever dream and actually had no idea what show I had watched until I was in high school and my 10th grade English teacher decided to just show us Christmas specials like the last 2-3 days that she has obviously recorded off TV on her VCR before Christmas break.

@kalbir Thanks for the 12/16-12/22 recaps as well!! And same reaction to trying to remember Alice in Wonderland from ‘85.

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Sundays. Without cable or great uhf reception, I always hated how all three channels had movies sundays. IMO, MSW was too strong of a lead-in to waste on a movie. At least Fox started a Sunday sitcom block, albeit cruder than the ol' cbs block.

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7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Sally Struthers is channeling her anger toward Betty White.

I just want to know if Sally, Donna, and the lady playing the daisy all practiced at home, wearing leotards and veterinary cones of shame.

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13 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

LOL! As a whole though the Alice books seem to be a difficult thing to adapt to live action television. Like what 14-15 years later NBC tried yet another miniseries along the same lines and the reception was just as divisive as I recall.

I don't think Alice works outside of the book. The book has not only the unsettling illustrations but also a genuine sense of strangeness and anger which doesn't translate onscreen. The best adaptation I've seen of in live action is that Tom Petty video.

6 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Sundays. Without cable or great uhf reception, I always hated how all three channels had movies sundays. IMO, MSW was too strong of a lead-in to waste on a movie. At least Fox started a Sunday sitcom block, albeit cruder than the ol' cbs block.

This is likely why I got into FOX on Sunday nights. Sunday otherwise felt dead.

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1 minute ago, Franko said:

I just want to know if Sally, Donna, and the lady playing the daisy all practiced at home, wearing leotards and veterinary cones of shame.

Now this is the oral history I want, not stuff like that one for Christmas is Connecticut where all I learned is the people who worked on that still hate Dyan Cannon.

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Just now, DRW50 said:

I don't think Alice works outside of the book. The book has not only the unsettling illustrations but also a genuine sense of strangeness and anger which doesn't translate onscreen. The best adaptation I've seen of in live action is that Tom Petty video.

Not to get off topic, but did you ever see Dreamchild, starring Coral Browne and Ian Holm? It's Alice-adjacent.

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Just now, Franko said:

Not to get off topic, but did you ever see Dreamchild, starring Coral Browne and Ian Holm? It's Alice-adjacent.

Bits but never the whole thing.

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8 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think Alice works outside of the book. The book has not only the unsettling illustrations but also a genuine sense of strangeness and anger which doesn't translate onscreen. The best adaptation I've seen of in live action is that Tom Petty video.

This is likely why I got into FOX on Sunday nights. Sunday otherwise felt dead.

True indeed regarding Lewis Carroll’s books as it’s hard to find a decent adaptation. The Disney version combined both books, while casting Alice always seems dubious while trying to rely too much on all star talents.

Sunday night television growing up was always…I guess family TV time? MSW and movies aside, I did like Life Goes on ABC as well. That said once Lois & Clark premiered my interest in MSW waned. Late 90’s/very early 00’s Sunday night Fox was just so easy to watch and provided something different (although I do think X-Files was better when it was on Fri nights than Sundays) I think that’s how Sunday night programming fundamentally changed across both broadcast and cable networks by the mid-00’s.

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2 hours ago, Spoon said:

The pilot is up on YT and I enjoyed it. Def better than She's the Sherrif.

Let's be honest: almost anything is better than "She's the Sheriff," lol.

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