CBS should be burned to the ground.

11 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

 

At this point, no rancid act or contract extended to a white male (past or present) by CBS should surprise us any longer.  

You're not wrong. Still, doesn't it seem like this contract goes against the company's fiduciary duty to investors? I'll be interested to see if anything more comes of this.

4 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

You're not wrong. Still, doesn't it seem like this contract goes against the company's fiduciary duty to investors? I'll be interested to see if anything more comes of this.

 

Of course, but these men are writing these contracts favorable to themselves and didn't anticipate a Ronan Farrow.  The best interest of shareholders comes into play when you see folks on the lower end of the food chain getting laid off.  How often are the men who write the rules laid off?  Folks have been hiding their truths to save their jobs for decades.  

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

CBS should be burned to the ground.

 

AGREED!

23 minutes ago, Vee said:

CBS should be burned to the ground.

At the very least MW needs to be out of a job. I'm so glad ED came forward with this response.  She really shredded his pathetic excuses. Let's hope she lands someplace much better. I'm rooting for Netflix. 

5 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

At the very least MW needs to be out of a job. I'm so glad ED came forward with this response.  She really shredded his pathetic excuses. Let's hope she lands someplace much better. I'm rooting for Netflix. 

 

He really should, but he's only playing the game his predecessors created for him.  I would love for someone to kick him in the nuts, however.  

 

The sad thing about ED and other women who don't wish to be harassed and they speak up about it?  They will more than likely be seen as "trouble" on another project and might not get hired.  That's a pretty sick and disgusting machine!  The woman was molested at 12, so it had to be really hard on the set of Bull.  

 

And you really have to wonder if the environment is a case of nature vs nurture.  Would these creeps be creeps if they didn't have a work place that fostered it?  Not all turn out to be trash, but you have to wonder.  

1 minute ago, ChitHappens said:

 

He really should, but he's only playing the game his predecessors created for him.  I would love for someone to kick him in the nuts, however.  

 

The sad thing about ED and other women who don't wish to be harassed and they speak up about it?  They will more than likely be seen as "trouble" on another project and might not get hired.  That's a pretty sick and disgusting machine!  The woman was molested at 12, so it had to be really hard on the set of Bull.  

 

And you really have to wonder if the environment is a case of nature vs nurture.  Would these creeps be creeps if they didn't have a work place that fostered it?  Not all turn out to be trash, but you have to wonder.  

Right or a society that fosters it. That's real issue, I think. The work place is a microcosm where the sexism and rape culture our society fosters comes into play.  It's so pervasive, I just don't know what it will take to change it or if it can be changed. 

The romantic drama 'Love Is_,' which received a second season order back in July, has been retroactively canceled in the wake of domestic violence allegations levied against co-creator Salim Akil https://t.co/NXT5DK3Jxt

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) December 19, 2018

2 hours ago, Vee said:

Wow.

 

God bless Eliza Dushku.  Writing that article was ten times more courageous than anything she did as Faith.  She has earned my respect forever.

 

2 hours ago, Vee said:

CBS should be burned to the ground.

 

Give it time.

 

1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

At the very least MW needs to be out of a job.

 

Again, give it time.

Edited December 19, 20186 yr by Khan

^ Damn. People losing their jobs thanks to these terrible people.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

God bless Eliza Dushku.  Writing that article was ten times more courageous than anything she did as Faith.  She has earned my respect forever.

 

 

Give it time.

 

 

Again, give it time.

I do suspect "Bull" will be canceled. CBS on the other hand will easily survive. If we are lucky some better people will be brought in to run it, but I'm not counting on that.

1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

The work place is a microcosm where the sexism and rape culture our society fosters comes into play.  It's so pervasive, I just don't know what it will take to change it or if it can be changed. 

 

Perhaps, if these creeps were to face actual jail time, rather than a proverbial slap on the wrist, a minor hit to their bank accounts, or even the loss of their jobs altogether?

 

Well, it's just a thought.

23 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Perhaps, if these creeps were to face actual jail time, rather than a proverbial slap on the wrist, a minor hit to their bank accounts, or even the loss of their jobs altogether?

 

Well, it's just a thought.

I do wish the consequences to the individuals were harsher.  I think jail time depends on the case. We can can't even get people put away for rape in the vast majority of cases, so jailing them for harassment seems impossible.  I'm not even sure it's the right answer in a case like this specific one, versus one where someone was assaulted. We need systematic change.  We need to stop indulging these guys just because they are unusually talented (looking at the NFL), popular (looking at Hollywood), rich or connected. Until that stops I can't see things changing much.

Edited December 19, 20186 yr by Juliajms

31 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Perhaps, if these creeps were to face actual jail time, rather than a proverbial slap on the wrist, a minor hit to their bank accounts, or even the loss of their jobs altogether?

 

Well, it's just a thought.

 

One of the most high-profile cases here ended with the perpetrator sentenced to jail, and when he appealed to a higher court the sentence was increased... Probably not what he had anticipated.  

The case has involved the Swedish Academy, since one of it's members is married to the convicted rapist. This scandal has been making headlines here for over a year now, and caused the Nobel Prize in literature for 2018 to be cancelled.

You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Arnault.

And also here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Literature#2018_controversy_and_award_cancellation

Edited December 19, 20186 yr by I Am A Swede

And now, to cap off the year, I could never make this up:

 

 

As news broke, a video shared from Kevin Spacey's Twitter account shows the actor appearing to address real-life events while in character as his Frank Underwood from #HouseofCards https://t.co/f37gHrRN5b

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) December 24, 2018

Kevin Spacey trying to stage a comeback by denying sexual assault allegations in a Christmas themed House of Cards fan fiction video is certainly a late 2018 plot twist I didn't see coming https://t.co/N7YxWyoOYQ

— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) December 24, 2018

Kevin spacey really out here trying to single handedly plug a Frank Underwood spin-off in a Christmas apron like NOTHING HAPPENED pic.twitter.com/dvDK1LZZCw

— Tara 🍍 (@TriflenTara) December 24, 2018

This is insane and creepy. You belong in prison. https://t.co/hbxlZ8xz1p

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) December 24, 2018

So to be clear, Kevin Spacey was accused of sexual assault by more than 15 people, many of which were minors, then came out as gay and everyone forgot about him, and now has posted a bizarre House of Cards-like christmas video denying the accusations. What on earth? https://t.co/3ntvepZsJe

— Caleb Hull 🎅🏼🌲🎁 (@CalebJHull) December 24, 2018

You know what?  I'm not even watching that Spacey video.  I'll take your word for it and assume that it's creepy and highly insensitive and offensive.  

I won't watch it either, but I know enough to say Holy $hit.  It's like our country is having some kind of collective mental breakdown or something. Nothing makes sense.