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Billy Crystal: Gay scenes on TV sometimes "too much for me."

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I almost hesitated to start this thread but I am so disappointed by his words.

"Don't shove it in our faces"? "it's too much for me"?

Unfortunately, the attitude and the reaction of many.

And, poor Kevin Hart, he would feel soooo insecure. Ah, well, it is what it is. It's probably for the best Hart doesn't try to "act" a gay role.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/19/billy-crystal-gay-scenes-tv_n_6501156.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices

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LOL at shove it in our faces. There are more people running around having same sex relations than many of these people think. I find it funny how some act like gay people on tv will turn people gay but a century's worth of straight people on tv hasn't turned gay people into heterosexuals.

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I'm gonna try and do what my mom always told me when I don't have nothing nice to say which is "Keep it cute or put that sh*t on mute."

But I never found Billy Crystal to be funny. Mediocre at best. So I pay this loser in dust.

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It makes me wonder if he's one of the reasons Jodie was turned straight and his being gay was totally deemphasized.

There are approximately two shows on network TV that have had fairly graphic gay scenes in recent years - HTGAWM, and Scandal. If you add pay cable, you get Looking (which presumably he wouldn't be watching since that is marketed as a gay show). What am I missing? Shameless? Shameless is also a pay cable show, and if anyone watched the UK version, they'd know they were going to see men taking it up the ass. Am I missing Ashton Kutcher taking a dick on Two and Half Men or something?

And I see he's already making himself a martyr for free speech in his response to the backlash.

This is the same old bullshit, because anyone who responds negatively to being told that gay people expressing desire or intimacy is "too much" will be told they're just too PC and THEY are the bigoted ones and THEY are the reason for homophobia.

Billy Crystal hasn't been funny, or particularly likeable, in about 25 years (Mr. Saturday Night and the bad Botox of recent years were a one-two punch), but I'm still a little sad about it. Oh well. I'm sure he'll be getting plenty of love for "speaking the truth."


I may not agree, but he's entitled to how he feels

People are always entitled to having bigoted views, but other people are entitled to not be thrilled about it.

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It makes me wonder if he's one of the reasons Jodie was turned straight and his being gay was totally deemphasized.

There are approximately two shows on network TV that have had fairly graphic gay scenes in recent years - HTGAWM, and Scandal. If you add pay cable, you get Looking (which presumably he wouldn't be watching since that is marketed as a gay show). What am I missing? Shameless? Shameless is also a pay cable show, and if anyone watched the UK version, they'd know they were going to see men taking it up the ass. Am I missing Ashton Kutcher taking a dick on Two and Half Men or something?

And I see he's already making himself a martyr for free speech in his response to the backlash.

This is the same old bullshit, because anyone who responds negatively to being told that gay people expressing desire or intimacy is "too much" will be told they're just too PC and THEY are the bigoted ones and THEY are the reason for homophobia.

Billy Crystal hasn't been funny, or particularly likeable, in about 25 years (Mr. Saturday Night and the bad Botox of recent years were a one-two punch), but I'm still a little sad about it. Oh well. I'm sure he'll be getting plenty of love for "speaking the truth."

Don't forget Empire [which I think this all stems from as it is the hot topic of the moment]. While the love scene wasn't graphic, we did see Jamal and his lover in bed about to engage in the throes of passion ... until his mother barged in and interrupted it. :P

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People are always entitled to having bigoted views, but other people are entitled to not be thrilled about it.

I completely agree, he really is the last person I expected to say something like that.

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They guy is like a thousand years old. It's going to take him a while to catch up.

It reminds of how my grandmother practically fell out in 1976 because we were watching Dick Clark's New Year's special and she saw a black man dancing with a white woman. She was waiting for the police to come take him away on live television.

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As the years go by, comments like these become less and less relevant, and, therefore, less and less threatening.

There are approximately two shows on network TV that have had fairly graphic gay scenes in recent years - HTGAWM, and Scandal. If you add pay cable, you get Looking (which presumably he wouldn't be watching since that is marketed as a gay show). What am I missing? Shameless? Shameless is also a pay cable show, and if anyone watched the UK version, they'd know they were going to see men taking it up the ass.

Just give in and watch US Shameless, Carl! I can say in all honesty that you'd truly enjoy it.

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Don't forget Empire [which I think this all stems from as it is the hot topic of the moment]. While the love scene wasn't graphic, we did see Jamal and his lover in bed about to engage in the throes of passion ... until his mother barged in and interrupted it. tongue.png

Oh. That makes more sense. (I haven't watched Empire yet)

I guess given the anti-gay messages from various FX shows, he's certainly found a home that won't affect his delicate sensibilities.

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Oh, I don't care! I'm not going to come for old Billy Crystal - he didn't mean anything by it. I can see where he's coming from on part of it, and I vehemently disagree with the other part. And that's okay. He's an older guy of a different generation, but I don't think he is some raging bigot. And I felt, as a kid watching it in syndication, that he did often portray a pretty normal gay guy on Soap in a fairly dignified way, at least after the initial camp, and I've always been grateful for that. And I think he's a great comedian. My mother is a dyed in the wool hardcore liberal with an FBI file dating back to the '60s, and due to her Irish Catholic background she has had some awkward takes at times on gay rights or sexuality on TV in general, gay or straight. Now we're bickering over LBJ's prominence in Selma, which is close to her heart because of what she was up to in that period, but she's not some bigot. Some of this [!@#$%^&*] is just a generational thing, and largely benign.

Kevin Hart, OTOH, didn't offend me at all. He's basically said he is too insecure to do that role and doesn't want to offend any GLBT people with his hesitance.

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My only challenge is Crystal felt compelled to share his feelings with the world. Why? He has a right to feel the way he wishes, and I won't condemn him for that. I'd just like for folks to keep things that might be hurtful to others to themselves. But no way in hell will I tell anyone how they should feel.

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