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1 minute ago, kalbir said:

@beebs Also Y&R blew up during 1983 and by 1984 was cemented in the top 3.

It's interesting to see the growth, though weird that it doesn't reflect as strongly in the overall numbers for the year. Y&R's growth has been slow and steady from 81-82 where they were 5th with 7.4, to 83-84 where they're now solidly 3rd with 8.6, and by season's end, they're consistently topping AMC for #2! I Have to hand it to Bell for collecting everything together so expertly after such a steep slump not two years prior.

GL's upward movement is also impressive, though it's hardly ticked upward vs. GH since January '84, which does surprise me considering the popularity of the first PKL era within the fandom. 

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2 hours ago, TEdgeofNight said:

@jason47 If you have time, I'm curious about the number of total viewers that Days had versus AMC when Days beat AMC in households from 5/7 - 5/11/84. 

Similarly, it would be great to see the total viewers that GL had versus GH for the 3 weeks that GL beat GH in households. (5/28-6/15/84). Thanks so much.

 
Here you go!
 
5/7/84-5/11/84:
DAYS: 6,290,000
AMC: 6,200,000
 
5/28/84-6/1/84:
GL: 6,700,000
GH: 6,620,000
 
6/4/84-6/8/84:
GL: 6,620,000
GH: 6,370,000
 
6/11/84-6/15/84:
GL: 6,790,000
GH: 6,700,000
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55 minutes ago, beebs said:

Y&R's growth has been slow and steady from 81-82 where they were 5th with 7.4, to 83-84 where they're now solidly 3rd with 8.6, and by season's end, they're consistently topping AMC for #2! I Have to hand it to Bell for collecting everything together so expertly after such a steep slump not two years prior.

1986 Y&R moves past All My Children for #2. 1984 through the first half of 1986 I'd say is Y&R's 1980s peak.

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2 hours ago, beebs said:

1983-84 really shook things up. The season + summer (vs. 1982-83) (yes, I know Fast Nationals aren't 100% accurate so take it with a grain of salt if you're so inclined):

  1. GH 9.9 (+0.1)
  2. AMC 8.8 (-0.4)
  3. Y&R 8.6 (+0.4)
  4. GL 7.9 (+0.5)
  5. OLTL 7.8 (-0.2)
  6. ATWT 7.7 (+0.2)
  7. DAYS 7.2 (+1.3)
  8. CAP 6.3 (+0.4)
  9. AW 5.6 (+0.5)
  10. RH 4.8 (-0.5)
  11. LOV 3.7 (-0.1)
  12. SFT 3.3 (+0.4)
  13. SB 3.3 --
  14. EON 3.2 (-0.5)

Obviously DAYS is the big winner this year, Bo and Hope really helped lift the show, and in some ways the rest of NBC Daytime, out of the gutter, even SFT getting a significant lift this year.

Luke & Laura's return helped GH for awhile, but their departure, and DA's, tanked the show the rest of the year, so they stayed pretty much flat vs. 82-83. This seems to have had a knock-on effect to the rest of ABCD, with the rest of the lineup posting year-on-year losses. Will be interesting to see how Rauch/O'Shea lift OLTL up in the coming year, as well as the effect the timeslot swap has on RH vs. LOV.

I'm assuming October 8 is when RH & LOV moved?

Looks like only the ABC soaps went down (aside from GH), but they were coming off an unsustainable high IMO. 

DAYS has definitely had an incredible shift.

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16 hours ago, JAS0N47 said:
 
Here you go!
 
5/7/84-5/11/84:
DAYS: 6,290,000
AMC: 6,200,000
 
5/28/84-6/1/84:
GL: 6,700,000
GH: 6,620,000
 
6/4/84-6/8/84:
GL: 6,620,000
GH: 6,370,000
 
6/11/84-6/15/84:
GL: 6,790,000
GH: 6,700,000

Thank Jason. Very much appreciated. 

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FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/15/84-10/19/84 & 10/22/84-10/26/84:

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FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/29/84-11/2/84 & 11/5/84-11/9/84:

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56 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/15/84-10/19/84 & 10/22/84-10/26/84:

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FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/29/84-11/2/84 & 11/5/84-11/9/84:

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Happy birthday Samantha Gene and Eric Roman 😂😂

A little surprised that the aftermath of the plane crash didn’t make Days rise a little more 

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Weekly Nielsen Ratings Update: Labor Day 1978-May 1992:

Labor Day 1978-January 1990 (the time frame prior to Soap Opera Weekly's full weekly ratings, coverage which began on 1/15/90):
 
Missing Weeks:
1978...1
1981...1
1987...7
1989...3
1990...1
TOTAL WEEKS MISSING FULL DATA...13 WEEKS
 
September 1989-May 1992: (Soap Opera Weekly weeks missing full demos/affiliates/coverage/preemptions):
1989...3
1990...7
1991...3
TOTAL WEEKS MISSING FULL DEMOS/ETC...13 WEEKS
 
We should be getting an update on the 1987-1991 weeks in the next month or so, so there's still a chance most of the weeks missing above will be coming before the end of the year!

Edited by JAS0N47

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25 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:
Weekly Nielsen Ratings Update: Labor Day 1978-May 1992:

Labor Day 1978-January 1990 (the time frame prior to Soap Opera Weekly's full weekly ratings, coverage which began on 1/15/90):
 
Missing Weeks:
1978...1
1981...1
1987...7
1989...3
1990...1
TOTAL WEEKS MISSING FULL DATA...13 WEEKS
 
September 1989-May 1992: (Soap Opera Weekly weeks missing full demos/affiliates/coverage/preemptions):
1989...3
1990...7
1991...3
TOTAL WEEKS MISSING FULL DEMOS/ETC...13 WEEKS
 
We should be getting an update on the 1987-1991 weeks in the next month or so, so there's still a chance most of the weeks missing above will be coming before the end of the year!

Amazing work :D 

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2 hours ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/29/84-11/2/84

Y&R tied for #1!

Putting Victor in the Abbott orbit is paying off.

Edited by kalbir

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On 9/3/2023 at 7:18 AM, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/1/84-10/5/84 & 10/8/84-10/12/84:

October 8, 1984: ABC moves Ryan's Hope to noon ET and Loving to 12:30 pm ET.

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38 minutes ago, kalbir said:

October 8, 1984: ABC moves Ryan's Hope to noon ET and Loving to 12:30 pm ET.

ABC's Folly. Should Have moved AMC to 12:30PM to 1:30PM ET and put Loving at 1:30PM ET to 2PM.

Should have canceled Ryan's Hope in 1984. 9 years of subpar ratings was enough.

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@JoeCool CBS's June 8, 1981 move of Y&R to 12:30 pm ET lead to it becoming a killer show that destroyed every soap in its path: Ryan's Hope, Loving, The City, Port Charles on ABC. The Doctors, Search for Tomorrow, Generations on NBC.

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5 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@JoeCool CBS's June 8, 1981 move of Y&R to 12:30 pm ET lead to it becoming a killer show that destroyed every soap in its path: Ryan's Hope, Loving, The City, Port Charles on ABC. The Doctors, Search for Tomorrow, Generations on NBC.

Understood. I don't think it would have killed All My Children. Maybe beat it not kill. Don't underestimate AMC. CBS moved Restless to 12:30PM to give it chance to beat AMC because head to head competition was intense.

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