I am not bothered by the pace of the show at all. I had some complaints but after the third episode I think that just comes down to me not liking the format of the second episode so much.

The only thing I am consistently weary of is this Celia story with the mystery man behind the curtain. They've got it set up to where both the audience and the characters have no idea who this "guardian" is. Stories that excite me tend to be of the format where the audience knows something the characters don't. I can even get behind the characters knowing something I don't, like the "what happened that night" plot. I am just not in the mood be yanked along in a story where neither side knows anything about anything. To be clear it is not a slow story, I just don't trust the way it is set up.

Anyway, great episode, really loved Opal deleting Celia's hard work and trying so very covertly to play match maker.

I don't mind the slower pace - it is actually the shorter scenes that I find more jarring. My biggest gripe is the dialogue - it is trying to hard to be witty, and using far too many cultural references, etc.

IA, on both counts.

Passions first week [...] served an extremely different purpose than AMC's first three episodes [...]. One has to create a whole new canvas while trying to incorporate a 41 year canvas and the issues that happened there, into it. The other had a blank slate.

But, see, I have to regard this almost as a brand-new series, because there is (to me) too much about the revival that's new and different to consider it a straightforward continuation.

I am not bothered by the pace of the show at all. I had some complaints but after the third episode I think that just comes down to me not liking the format of the second episode so much.

The only thing I am consistently weary of is this Celia story with the mystery man behind the curtain. They've got it set up to where both the audience and the characters have no idea who this "guardian" is. Stories that excite me tend to be of the format where the audience knows something the characters don't. I can even get behind the characters knowing something I don't, like the "what happened that night" plot. I am just not in the mood be yanked along in a story where neither side knows anything about anything. To be clear it is not a slow story, I just don't trust the way it is set up.

I am sorta ok with it if it's played slower--but the other stories like Cassandra's (despite my misgivings) and the whole "Who did JR shoot" stories are played fast. But it needs more players---I think, as has been suggested might happen, if it ties into a prostitution ring that involves Celia and Brooke, that would be interesting.

If it's just there's truly been some mysterious "Phantom of the Opera" type man behind Celia I'll be disappointed.

I'm pretty sure that Women 18-49 isn't the key demo anymore. Women 18-34, maybe...but Adults 18-34 in general seems to be the audience I'm under the impression is the "key" demo. AMC/OLTL are essentially the online equivalent of Univision/Telemundo soaps, which are heavily viewed by latin males and females.

Thanks Errol. I got the impression since day one that they are focusing on Adults so I assumed most people here had that impression as well.

Sure, she's...cheeky, but that isn't the same as Erica telling Phil he's Nick's son in order to break up him and Tara. Right now, at least, I don't get a similar vibe from her daughter's daughter.

Did Erica do that within the first week of the show? I doubt it. Give Miranda a chance.

Very uneven episode Wednesday. The best bits were anything to do with David Hayward.

I agree with whoever said they should have followed up with Adam having Brooke sign those papers and the "favor" from Monday. It's probably going to be randomly brought up again in a week or two as some kind of surprise. Also, I thought Adam said he was going out of town on Monday?

Loved David and Angie. Love that Angie spoke for him at the parole board hearing. Also loved Cara's conflict over how she had cut David out of her decision. Great cliffhanger with David asking Cara what she'd done. Maybe David will be more understanding whenever he finds out the truth than she thinks.

Celia story - I still have the same reservations I did before about the mix of tones.

Cassandra story - going from bad to worse. So plot-driven and exploitative "woman in peril," now complete with OTT Russian mobster using the b-word and multiple incidences of violence. Not seeing any social relevance or depth to this "ripped from the headlines" story yet, just the same old soapy threat (even involving Zach's casino again) but with more graphic violence and language.

Hope the lack of writer/director credits isn't going to be a regular thing.

Edited May 3, 201312 yr by jfung79

Did Erica do that within the first week of the show? I doubt it. Give Miranda a chance.

She wasn't even on the first week...

I don't mind the slower pace - it is actually the shorter scenes that I find more jarring. My biggest gripe is the dialogue - it is trying to hard to be witty, and using far too many cultural references, etc.

Melissa Salmon

Teresa Zimmerman

Patrick Mulcahey

Bettina Bradbury

Richard Culliton

All of them are wonderful dialogue writers, and if put in an editing position, could really help the show develop the characters' voices.

Sorry if spelling any of the writers' names are wrong, too tired to look them up.

the problem is those writers are on other soaps

She wasn't even on the first week...

you mean the first week back in 1970??? Erica appeared in Episode 10

Right--end of the second week.