Members EricMontreal22 Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 I think he meant both. SOme people have that opinion, but I think to say these reboots, personally, are NOT the same show except a couple of characters and a city name is way too simplistic. Obviously they're different. Then again, I don't think they're as different as some tv soaps have been in a, well maybe not 1 and a half year period but a 5 year period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm rounding up. It's public and out there, but it's not from them. None of them have openly commented on doing PP or not doing it or not wanting to appear. It's leaked speculation and rumor coming largely out of "sources" at GH - which has an interest in fostering that belief. And 90% of the online soap "press" is absolutely adoring of the GH team and all their works, and is an easy conduit for their information flow. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 MEs facebook posts arent from him? KA's tweets arent hers? Based on... PP forcing them off GH, but willing to let them stay on GH in their current roles IF they appear in their product. RH took it, ME and KA didnt. If ABC had given PP what it wanted, EH would be on both, with PP controlling much of his GH story and episodes, while ME and KA would be out of a job for not wanting to do the web show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 And neither of them said a thing about PP or OLTL. Really? Confirm that. Find anyone on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 JP you are on a roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 Vee, I know that you know how to deduce meaning out of talking around issues, like ME has and how KA has. That's not flat out there on record, but a little common sense and critical thinking can go a long way here. PP pulled the characters from GH. Fact. PP allowed RH to return to GH as Todd after filming their show. Fact. ABC was not down with PPs restrictions - including air dates and story approval - and said no thanks, we will bring them all back as new characters. Fact. Now that all three actors are returning to GH, PP is upset and reaching by filing a lawsuit due to them not getting their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 I do. I also know that each of us did not take the same meaning from the things we did or said. It's subjective. We don't know what GH (not ABC) was specifically not down with. We have speculation. That's your guess, Jack. It's not fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 What is FACT by the lawsuit is that GH only could use these OLTLers for One year & they were writing them past that point. That is a breach of contract They wrote an arc on Gh where OLTL's Tomas may be Alcazar without having the permission to use the Tomas Character. That is also breach of contract. Finally up until yesterday ABC was in breach of contract for not turning over AMC & OLTL's URLS ABC is still in breach now and you only have to breach one part to be held liable financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 This whole thing has taken on the air of a bad divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 PP needs to stick to something where they actually prove damages. The ads that GH won't be showing and the URL deception. Tossing in the petty things that they did nothing to minimize will make PP look like the idiots they are. PP had an obligation to step in and mitigage any losses with the 7 characters but didn't. They should scrap that from the lawsuit. Once negotiations broke down, look how quickly GH had to scramble to change the endings of the 3 characters and make certain they were never mentioned again. It was done quickly, so PP could have done the same thing when they learned of the "breach". Once PP learned that Cope and VJ were dead, the court would have to ask, did they give GH/ABC an opportunity to correct this as well as decrease the airtime and stories for the 3. PP will have to say no they didn't [because they thought they would be getting something out of it, the 3 performers]. Fine, you get no money on this part of the claim, which is why it needs to be removed because GH will show that PP is clearly suffering from a bad case of Sour Grapes. Stick with the actual sobatage and they may be able to get something out of this. Morons should be paying me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 Damages are subjextive. They may get money when Breach is proven, which it has been by the Tomas usuage alone . However that doesnt mean they will get 25 Million. I see this settling before it hits court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 PP will get nothing for Tomas or the others as they sat back and did nothing while GH was "harming" them! I wouldn't even use this to support the legitimate claims. $25 million? Laughable! They'd be lucky to get $25! PP should revise the suit to exclude the characters and concentrate on what really matters! But they've proven way too stupid to do that. In a court of law, damages are damages! If I agree to give you a % of the proceeds of each stick from a pack of gum I'm selling, and in the agreement, you ask that I not remove the adhesive price before contacting you, but I ignore that and remove it and still give you your cut. Not only do I give you your cut, you knew after getting your share of stick 2 that I removed the price sticker and continued to allow me to "breach" this contract. Explain to me your damages, please. Courts don't have time for patty cake! PP can probably prove that the URL deception was harmful to them and can certainly prove GH not airing the paid for ads would be harmful, but the crap that took place on GH? Dumb asses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 This seems pretty open and shut in Prospect Park's favor. From the signed amendment that ABC breached, to signing the GH characters to long term contracts to not even attempting to wrap up their story when they knew 100% that OLTL was coming back. I just wonder how these three characters were important enough to ABC to spend so much money. This is ridiculous. I know many say that the PP deal was dead in the water, but we all know behind the scenes they HAD to be doing something. They didn't just pop up with this money in December. Also, I'm sure they have proof that ABC violated their story approval, something they ABSOLUTELY should've had. ABC shouldn't have even questioned that! I know it may seem like no big deal to kill Hope and Cole, but both are legacy characters. Cole is the son of two popular OLTL characters and Hope is Viki's granddaughter! NO OLTL characters should've been killed off on another show where they couldn't be properly grieved. And none of that was necessary to launch these characters on a new show. In fact, it made the story more far-fetched because in a situation like this, a character like Starr would be more likely to move home, rather than stay in a new town with no friends to relieve the memories of her daughter dying. Ron Carlivati and Frank Valentini made their thoughts on PP so public and obvious and the writing speaks for itself. I really don't see how PP could lose this lawsuit. I'm sure they'll end up settling out of court though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 PP can win on the Tomas issues. Hell companies have won over characters before when the project was done years prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greens_dupres Posted April 19, 2013 Members Share Posted April 19, 2013 No, PP must prove damages. Its true ABC may give them money in a settlement just to get them to go away. But you must prove actual damages from the breach to prevail in court. Google "elements of a contract claim" if you do not believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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