Toxic Lovers: EP and HW Combo edition

January 8, 201312 yr

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What are/were some of the worst toxic HW/EP combo's? Such as Guza and Phelps or Frank and Ron. I am also wondering how bad it would be if Phelps and McTavish were at AMC together and other "Train wrecks waiting to happen"! Sorry for being morbid!!

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Goutman & Passanante

Wheeler & Kreizman

Arena-Bell & Rauch

DePreist & Phelps

Higley & ANYONE

Wheeler & Weston

Edited January 8, 201312 yr by brandonfluellen

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MAB and JFP would have been a NIGHTMARE!!!

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MAB and JFP would have been a NIGHTMARE!!!

I have a feeling JFP would kill MAB! MAB seems like some stuck up WASPy blue blood that belongs to the "Daughters of Fine Lineage" or something while JFP reminds me of some mafia princess.

Edited January 8, 201312 yr by allmc2008

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paul rauch, great producer! claire labine, great writer! together at GL, bad combination!

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JFP seems to have had issue with a number of people--prob because (her time at GH, it seems, aside) she likes to control the overall vision of the show. WIth McTavish, particularly on OLTL that meantthat McTavish seemed to agree to all of her ideas (and Pam Long said that the recent she was so brief at OLTL was exactly that).

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MAB and JFP would have been a NIGHTMARE!!!

For the cast and crew of Y&R? Definitely.

For those of us here who love to chew on every piece of delicious backstage gossip? Hell to the no.

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Josh Griffith and MAB. They fired the wrong one.

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Wheeler controlled story on GL. Rauch liked to control everything, and didn't deal well with women in power. JFP just likes to bring on her friends, and doesn't consider the consequences to the show she is running. Goutman also spooled a lot of story ideas that the writers had to follow. Therefore, any combination of these EPs with a headwriter, IMO, is/was bad.

Let the writer write. It should be the job of the EP to make the best of that vision. Not the other way around.

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Paul Rauch & Harding Lemay. The created a masterpiece at AW (from what I've heard and little I've been privileged to see), but from reading Lemay's Eight Years in Another World, they despised one another & clashed.

Oh guess I can add Irna Phillips & Harding Lemay too.

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John Conboy/Ellen Weston - GL

Ellen Wheeler/David Kreizman - GL

John Valente/Henry Stern and Stephen Black - ATWT

I agree with Goutman and Passanante.

I agree the EP should produce and let his writers write. He was the real HW for ATWT in the later years.

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Goutman/Sheffer should be on this list.

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Goutman and Sheffer. It don't get more toxic than that, ladies and gentlemen.

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Ken Corday and any Head Writer?

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Gloria and Norma Monty!!!!!!! Perfect example of nepotism!!

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DAYS: December 2025 Discussion Thread

I do think Abigail Klein is at least serviceable and I don't hate Stephanie. The character just has 0 personality. She morphs interests and desires every time she switches boyfriends. And it's not as if any of her pairings have even been mildly popular.
I agree about C/F obviously. It's better, but not special. The bar was so low the lack of offensive material made the show seem like it was moving in the right direction. The show really isn't moving anywhere lol. It's just existing day to day.

By carolineg · 3 minutes ago3 min
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Given the news with Rob Reiner today I certainly did not expect to hear Tony Gerry passing away. This shortly after the anniversary of Luke and Laura's wedding too! Anthony was perhaps the biggest actor in all of soaps, and he was a part of the most famous pairing in soaps.
I grew up on JFP era GH, and only knew Luke as the comically cynical gambler and drunk. Laura was the woman in the rocking chair. I had no idea until I watched the 50th anniversary marathon that Luke was a leading man back in the day, then a well balanced family man/shaky business in the 90s. A certain light disappeared from the character after Laura went into catatonia. The character was further degraded when they claimed he ran over Jake.
In my mind, the last scene of GH would've been Luke and Laura getting remarried after they did all the healing work from their traumatic years together. Sadly, that will not happen. But at least the character of Bobbie was still alive to mourn Luke when he was killed off.
What I will always wonder is why the actor resented the pairing and the version of the role that made him a household name. RIP.

By Planet Soap · 5 minutes ago5 min
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Yes she aged 45… she died from her illness

By AMCOLTLLover · 7 minutes ago7 min
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It's sad. I never liked the ending they gave the character in 2015 and then 2022. I still don't understand them jumping the gun and killing off Luke in 2022. What was that all about?
IMHO, the character should have been kept alive off screen, and officially said to pass when the actor did, especially for a character that was the superstar lead on the show for so long. There's very little way to pay tribute to him on screen now.

By Jdee43 · 12 minutes ago12 min
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Here's her monthly stats the last two years she was on the show:
1/78: 3
2/78: 4
3/78: 11
4/78: 1
5/78: 2
6/78: 2
7/78: 2
8/78: 4
9/78: 1
10/78: 4
11/78: 2
1/79: 1
2/79: 3
3/79: 6
4/79: 7
5/79: 11
6/79: 7
7/79: 8
8/79: 9
9/79: 9

By JAS0N47 · 25 minutes ago25 min
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And Johnny Wactor and Billy Miller (along with Tyler Christopher) dying so young and tragically. It’s devastating.
And Nneka Garland behind the scenes…

By Faulkner · 33 minutes ago33 min
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God, do I agree with this. Stephanie just doesn't cut it as a lead carrying this much story.
DAYS has all the elements to being good, but the truth is, it's not. Cwikly and Ford are better than Ron C, but that doesn't mean much when they're still not what I'd call solid. They aren't giving me anything to be excited about, and it feels like everything is on low simmer.

By ranger1rg · 37 minutes ago37 min
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By dragonflies · 38 minutes ago38 min
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Awful news. I've certainly said my fair share about Luke and the Eckerts on here over the years, but when he was on and committed, there was never anybody better. He was a huge part of growing up watching GH in the 90s and 2000s.
His relationships with Laura, Bobbie, Robert, and Lucky will get most of the attention, but I want to mention how good he was with a lot of the rest of the cast in that era. His relationships with Tony, Lucy, Felicia, Tiffany, Sonny, Carly, Nikolas, Alexis, Tracy- all so different, unique, and you really felt the connections.
Monica, Luke, Robert, Rick, and Lesley in one year is so much loss. Add in Bobbie, Alan, Nikolas, Sean, and Epiphany in the past couple of years and it's almost unfathomable.

By AdelaideCate007 · 38 minutes ago38 min
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I agree with this. You can see it in her shows, there is always movement. Those talking head scenes were walking around the nurses station, stopping at the counter at Kelly’s, etc. Scenes in the Webber home often begin or end with someone coming down the stairs, or headed to the door. I am sure Geary had run into plenty of issues where staging in a more traditional way hindered what he wanted to do and could seem stifling. Monty allowed improvisation, and spontaneity to be encouraged in rehearsals.
As a kid I always noticed that the ABC soaps of that era just felt more modern. When I watch old episodes now, the ABC shows still stand out that way. They took risks. Now I am not saying I think everything they did was fantastic- they had plenty of flops and bad ideas.

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