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Trayvon Martin Killing

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Not for nothing, I lived in a condo community for over 25 years, and the volunteer neighborhood watch and other condo board members were some of the nuttiest, nosiest, most self-entitled/aggrandizing, no-life losers I have ever had the displeasure of knowing. Whether it was peeping through blinds, getting guests' cars towed, calling the police on neighborhood kids who dared to look at their busy-body selves with contempt, standing in front of their townhome scanning the parking lot with a [!@#$%^&*] searchlight... there is a particular type of human out there who delights in the "power" of such menial positions. People who wake up in the morning just hoping to find trouble, or more accurately, make trouble for the rest of us.

Now that is TRUE... HELL YES. And might I add homeowner's assocation Nazis who demand you paint your house one of 10 shades of dookie.

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You forgot to mention Bill Cosby's rant, the standard go to of certain white people (notice I didn't generalize) who feel the need to lecture black people with passive aggressive racism in the form of "you need to better for your people".

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Is it still racist BS when it comes from a person of color?

it to me is racist no matter WHO says it, racism is stupidity at it's finest & black, white, etc..

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People have a right to think what they want. Doesn't give anyone a right to lay hands on her, or arrest her... but there ain't no such thing as thought police. yet.

Exactly. George Zimmerman was free to "think" Trayvon was suspicious but he crossed the line by confronting him.

Yes, but portraying a 17 year old thug who is on a 10 day suspension from school and assaulting someone as an "innocent child" is pretty biased as well. They both had issues, and dumb and dumber equal tragedy. I know MANY MANY MANY black parents who FORBID, do you hear, TOTALLY FORBID their children to wear that type of clothing because it says something about you. We need to stop dealing with idelastic crap, and deal with reality.

The reality is that George Zimmerman stalked and murdered a teenage boy.

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You forgot to mention Bill Cosby's rant, the standard go to of certain white people (notice I didn't generalize) who feel the need to lecture black people with passive aggressive racism in the form of "you need to better for your people".

If people don't want to transcend their position in life, then there's nothing I, or anyone else can do about it. Bill did it, Oprah did it, Obama did it.... white folk have that element as well, it's called trailer trash. It's only people with chips on their shoulders that think when I'm speaking of a particular element in the black community, I'm speaking of ALL black people.

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Exactly. George Zimmerman was free to "think" Trayvon was suspicious but he crossed the line by confronting him.

The reality is that George Zimmerman stalked and murdered a teenage boy.

I think that's the crux of the argument. Confronting someone is in no way illegal unless you LAY YOUR HANDS on someone. You can debate whether this occured, and that is fine, but actual physical contact is where the line is crossed. And it's not stalking unless it's done more than once, there must be a pattern of repeated behaviour.

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A lawyer lays it all out:

Manslaughter is defined as: “The killing of a human being by the . . . culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification . . . ” Does the evidence support a finding of guilty of manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt?

I believe it does. But for the man’s negligence in carrying a loaded gun and chasing and pursuing the teen, after being told not to by the police, there would have been no physical confrontation and the teen would be alive.

No reasonably careful person would do what the man did, and that should be obvious to everyone.

And, that is without considering anyone’s race.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/11/3496085_zimmerman-trial-man-carrying-loaded.html

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I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I just don't hesitate to call out racist bullshit when I see. I'd never run around lecturing about trailer trash (your words not mine), because I don't think there needs to be a racial element included in calling on people to do better. People in general ought to do better, but the notion that improvement needs to be across the board is so foreign to some people.

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Do you all recall a recent case in TX where a man shot and killed a neighbor? They were "feuding", more like the guy kept calling the cops because the neighbors had loud Saturday night parties. One night he called 911 and went to confront them, armed. What raised significant suspicion in the subsequent trial was the guy's repeated justifiable defense textbook speak to the 911 operator, e.g., "I mean, I'm in fear for my life here, I'm in fear for my life..." like he had every intention to shoot someone that night. He'd also had conversations with co-workers talking about how one is in the clear to shoot and kill if you make the other out to be the aggressor. I wish I could remember more details, this was profiled on one of those Dateline-type shows.

They talked about that on 20/20 Friday. It disgusted me because he was looking for trouble and lying syaing he was in fear for his life and hs was about to be jumped. The men were just wondering why he was on the property he shouldve stayed his ass home and let the police handle it. He killed a young father.

Here is the story of John McNeil a black man in Georgia who shot a white man who was on McNeil's property snooping around while McNeil's son was home alone. He claimed stand your ground and despite testimony from witnesses claiming the white man was the aggressor he was convicted. Luckily he was released but he had to plead guilty to manslaughter and got released on time served. SMH.

http://newsone.com/2212460/john-mcneil-freed/

What a great country we live in. :rolleyes:

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They talked about that on 20/20 Friday. It disgusted me because he was looking for trouble and lying syaing he was in fear for his life and hs was about to be jumped. The men were just wondering why he was on the property he shouldve stayed his ass home and let the police handle it. He killed a young father.

Here is the story of John McNeil a black man in Georgia who shot a white man who was on McNeil's property snooping around while McNeil's son was home alone. He claimed stand your ground and despite testimony from witnesses claiming the white man was the aggressor he was convicted. Luckily he was released but he had to plead guilty to manslaughter and got released on time served. SMH.

http://newsone.com/2212460/john-mcneil-freed/

What a great country we live in. rolleyes.gif

And that's I think a bigger issue than the racial implications, the NRA and ALEC have turned this country into the wild west where anybody can shoot anyone else then claim they were afraid. It's easier to be a gun toting coward than a responsible citizen.

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I just have to hope that in 50 years we'll be at a point where instead of 45% of the population being racist that we are at 20%....maybe I'm being naive but a part me will always been an optimist and believe in the better nature of humanity....

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I just have to hope that in 50 years we'll be at a point where instead of 45% of the population being racist that we are at 20%....maybe I'm being naive but a part me will always been an optimist and believe in the better nature of humanity....

In 50 years America will be an afterthought.

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If people don't want to transcend their position in life, then there's nothing I, or anyone else can do about it. Bill did it, Oprah did it, Obama did it.... white folk have that element as well, it's called trailer trash. It's only people with chips on their shoulders that think when I'm speaking of a particular element in the black community, I'm speaking of ALL black people.

:rolleyes:

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