Or like I was saying the other day, maybe they were happy to comply because that freed them of bringing another black character on the canvas. Meanwhile, I cannot imagine someone having the balls to say that they don't want to work with someone of a particular race. Can you imagine telling your agent that and having them bring that up in negotiations? Or coming out of your own face in a meeting with the EP and saying that? I just can't...

You're right of course. But at the same time it's still unfathomable to me.

The whole situation is so ugly and such a mess. When I read this thread all I can think about is how much I once loved these shows and now I'm just disgusted by what's left of this genre and not just because of the diversity stuff.

I wish these grownass folks would get the hell off Twitter and start handling their business like adults.

Preach.

I don't think Michelle ever really had any reason to believe that one insignificant scene (I don't even remember what they were discussing in the scene!) would create such a firestorm.. Actually, I should rephrase that: I don't think Michelle had any reason to believe that Rowell would go out of her way to create such a firestorm out of it. Does Rowell have any other evidence to support her claims that MS did it deliberately because she was black, or to be rude? I've never seen any.

It was a scene where Phyllis had just found out that Drucilla was now her boss. The choice was distasteful in the first place and shouldn't have gotten past production. I wouldn't have allowed it but that's just me. I too would question why an actor's mind would go there in that scene. It's either lazy or calculated and having seen how MS has worked this time around, my money is on calculated. Why didn't she let Vicki in on it? Duh, because VR would have seen through it and put a stop to it. Period.

As for calling VR crazy, the word crazy is used so lightly in our society now and it's not to be taken as such. To publically call a fellow actor that, when it's commonplace for any actor to have their own eccentricities, is also a calculated move to dismiss what they are saying. People forget (or don't realize) that PB called VR crazy before twitter, before "Spit Take-gate," before she'd done much of anything except for allude to the responsibility she felt as an actress to her race and taking it seriously. She made some harsh criticisms about the show's lack of diversity behind the scenes and none of it was false. It was her perogative and to be called crazy for your own perspective on things is hurtful and demeaning. It's an ugly word and it's usage here is and was despicable IMO.

I hope she does return sooner than later because she and Drucilla are invaluable to the show and have left a huge hole in the canvas that has gone unfilled.

Edited August 28, 201213 yr by juniorz1

Preach. It was a scene where Phyllis had just found out that Drucilla was now her boss. The choice was distasteful in the first place and shouldn't have gotten past production. I wouldn't have allowed it but that's just me. I too would question why an actor's mind would go there in that scene. It's either lazy or calculated and having seen how MS has worked this time around, my money is on calculated. Why didn't she let Vicki in on it? Duh, because VR would have seen through it and put a stop to it. Period. As for calling VR crazy, the word crazy is used so lightly in our society now and it's not to be taken as such. To publically call a fellow actor that, when it's commonplace for any actor to have their own eccentricities, is also a calculated move to dismiss what they are saying. People forget (or don't realize) that PB called VR crazy before twitter, before "Spit Take-gate," before she'd done much of anything except for allude to the responsibility she felt as an actress to her race and taking it seriously. She made some harsh criticisms about the show's lack of diversity behind the scenes and none of it was false. It was her perogative and to be called crazy for your own perspective on things is hurtful and demeaning. It's an ugly word and it's usage here is and was despicable IMO. I hope she does return sooner than later because she and Drucilla are invaluable to the show and have left a huge hole in the canvas that has gone unfilled.

Will you marry me

Many want to dismiss this as a creative decision that would enhance the scene because one of their favs did it, but just think about it. MS, in her passive/agressive way, pulled a practical joke here. She ok'd it with everyone but, of course, the recipient of such a distasteful joke. She went to others to get their "approval" so that when the manure hits the fan, her other co-workers would have her back, thus "freeing" her of any malice.

I'm not fooled so easily. What MS did was calculated and vile and she's lucky VR didn't kick her ass!

CK's not half black she's pointed out several times before that her mother is half white.

Oops. My bad.

Except...her mother is at least one-third Black, correct?

I think I'll use the "drop biscuit rule" for this one.

Isn't Lily's backstory that she was raised in Paris and went to boarding schools there?

LOL is Rowell sucking up now

TV Guide talks to Young & Restless AWESOME new leadership! http://t.co/Kw217m0H

— Victoria Rowell (@victoriarowell)

August 28, 2012

Isn't Lily's backstory that she was raised in Paris and went to boarding schools there?

I was raised in a predominantly white suburb, instituted at the height of "White Flight," and went to predominantly white public schools, associating with hardly anyone from any other ethnicity. I'm still blacker than she is.

LOL is Rowell sucking up now

https://twitter.com/...522312938561536

We may be reading into things, but just by pure guessing, I'm wondering if talks are really happening...

http://twitter.com/victoriarowell/status/240523302299385856

We may be reading into things, but just by pure guessing, I'm wondering if talks are really happening...

http://twitter.com/v...523302299385856

If so, then I pray a Queen Latifah cameo is NEVER part of the deal.

We may be reading into things, but just by pure guessing, I'm wondering if talks are really happening...

http://twitter.com/v...523302299385856

Here we go again. Vicki, I love you but stop doing this juvenile [!@#$%^&*] on Twitter. It diminishes you and makes you look desperate. Put on your grown-up panties and be a BUSINESSWOMAN.

Vicki, I love you but stop doing this juvenile [!@#$%^&*] on Twitter. It diminishes you and makes you look desperate. Put on your grown-up panties and be a BUSINESSWOMAN.

What she said.

If so, then I pray a Queen Latifah cameo is NEVER part of the deal.

I hear they're casting Sofia's sister for a one day role.

Don't even joke about that, Y&RWorldTurner. I mean it. QL is so wooden as an actress. Yet, for whatever reason, they just keep giving her parts. It's disgusting.

On the other hand, I'd go along with a QL cameo on Y&R, provided it ends with her (as Sofia's sister, Serena) dragging Sofia's ass out of Genoa City.

Edited August 28, 201213 yr by Khan

I don't think much of QL as an actress, but I did enjoy Living Single, at least the first 3 seasons or so...

We may be reading into things, but just by pure guessing, I'm wondering if talks are really happening...

If Maria were still in charge Patricia Richardson would be playing Jill & Dru in a dual role.