Jamey also said they tried to work out a deal where Maria would stay on the show as a figurehead, but she either refused or it fell through....

Bingo Cat! From what I hear this storyline and Lauralee's presence on set, speaking to all her old set friends (both cast and crew) was the last straw for Lauralee and when she smelled blood in the water with Sony she made her case, Brad agreed (lest we forget who Brad Carlton was named after) and Lee gave her approval to relinquishing Bell creative influence. Bill Jr still has his job, a role that cannot be done away with...so the axe could fall on MAB with no repercussions.

I really do wonder if Jess agreed to leave politely and the "6months off to help with her new grandson" was just good timing and good spin. 6 months is so long in this business, I wonder if the plan was for Jess to later announce that she loves her life in Oregon so much and is loving being a grandmother so much that she is "retiring" from the show? I wish I knew. Only time will tell.

I like juice gossip as much as the next, but I'd be careful about ascribing motives to Lauralee and Brad that aren't from reliable and transparent sources. "From what I hear..." doesn't mean much unless you give your sources. It's like you're gleeful fueling a fire that may not have even been started by Lauralee or Brad.

I like juice gossip as much as the next, but I'd be careful about ascribing motives to Lauralee and Brad that aren't from reliable and transparent sources. "From what I hear..." doesn't mean much unless you give your sources. It's like you're gleeful fueling a fire that may not have even been started by Lauralee or Brad.

people who give up sources dont keep sources.

That sounds like fanfic. No legit insider spoiled that. And it's well known that teenage was a ruse to cast Kristina.

Phelps is the one who begged SJB to return.

this was long before kristina was recast. this was roughly a year ago. they approached her the day Days let her go actually.

Ohelbs absolutely begged Brown to return. Three times, that i know of. When braun left, for claudia. and one other time.

I like juice gossip as much as the next, but I'd be careful about ascribing motives to Lauralee and Brad that aren't from reliable and transparent sources. "From what I hear..." doesn't mean much unless you give your sources. It's like you're gleeful fueling a fire that may not have even been started by Lauralee or Brad.

With 323 posts to your name, I'll forgive your ignorance if you're unaware of my contributions to this board, particularly during the WGA strike. I knew things about LML and Y&R that I disclosed on this board ahead of much of the soap press, legit and otherwise.

If I don't know something to be a fact, like Jess Walton's current status, I say it.

And as JackPeyton put so well, anyone who discloses a source loses a source.

Edited July 27, 201213 yr by DaytimeFan

Bingo Cat! From what I hear this storyline and Lauralee's presence on set, speaking to all her old set friends (both cast and crew) was the last straw for Lauralee and when she smelled blood in the water with Sony she made her case, Brad agreed (lest we forget who Brad Carlton was named after) and Lee gave her approval to relinquishing Bell creative influence. Bill Jr still has his job, a role that cannot be done away with...so the axe could fall on MAB with no repercussions.

Not saying that didn't happen, you're way more knowledgeable than me but wouldn't it make more sense for Lauralee, Brad, Lee to go to Bill Jr and tell him he either has to wife or Sony's going to take over and probably won't like who Sony chooses. Would they really side with Sony and give up creative control like that? I'd think giving up control to Sony would be the last thing the Bells would ever want to do.

Edited July 27, 201213 yr by wingwalker

The whole affair is continuing to make me feel apathetic towards JFP coming in. I almost wonder if it's actually a good thing.

this was long before kristina was recast. this was roughly a year ago. they approached her the day Days let her go actually.

Ohelbs absolutely begged Brown to return. Three times, that i know of. When braun left, for claudia. and one other time.

They were looknig for a Kristina recast last summer, fired LA and then plans got pushed back, and then pushed back mroe because of writer changes. The mafia teen was for a Kristina recast.

Not saying that didn't happen, you're way more knowledgeable than me but wouldn't it make more sense for Lauralee, Brad, Lee to go to Bill Jr and tell him he either has to wife or Sony's going to take over and probably won't like who Sony chooses. Would they really side with Sony and give up creative control like that? I'd think giving up control to Sony would be the last thing the Bells would ever want to do.

The problem is, MAB was the Bell compromise with Sony back when LML was fired. LML was CBS and Sony's idea. When she failed the Bell's made their case for a Bell to helm the show. Sony relented and allowed the Bell's a management deal. That deal has now expired and MAB is gone. She really was their last chance at creative control.

As well, Brad won't have anything to do with Y&R because he has total autonomy at B&B. Lauralee wants to be a stay at home mom, Bill Jr has no creative skill whatsoever and Lee is 84 and was never the major creative force behind the scenes as it is.

Re: the GH debate, I remember the sides on that girl. It was a cousin from the Soleito crime family that originated with Tracy on The City. Garin Wolf was bringing the character in and was big on the Soleito connection. I find it very plausible to believe they would've aged her up for Tamara Braun - which would've been another dumb idea like Claudia Zacchara, as opposed to just bringing her or Sarah Brown back as Carly.

Edited July 27, 201213 yr by Vee

Queen MAB's full delusion has finally been revealed! How can she truly think that?

While I'm glad that changes are being implemented, I really am wary about the fact that Sony will have creative control now. I honestly don't think that a corporation having creative control has ever really been a good thing in the longterm. It seems to me we'll see more of a desecration of the show now. Then again, there's not much left to destroy... although we've all been proven wrong every time we've said that. Who knows?

Is it really that impossible to see Kay Alden back? There's really no other way the show could go back to what it was. After all, Sony's version of betterment was the Hack Bitch From Hell. Who could possibly trust them?

The problem is, MAB was the Bell compromise with Sony back when LML was fired. LML was CBS and Sony's idea. When she failed the Bell's made their case for a Bell to helm the show. Sony relented and allowed the Bell's a management deal. That deal has now expired and MAB is gone. She really was their last chance at creative control.

As well, Brad won't have anything to do with Y&R because he has total autonomy at B&B. Lauralee wants to be a stay at home mom, Bill Jr has no creative skill whatsoever and Lee is 84 and was never the major creative force behind the scenes as it is.

Interesting, thanks. I suppose Kay Alden and Ed Scott are happy on B&B and would rather stay there than go back to Y&R and try to turn around. While MAB needed the boot, I guess I'm worried about Sony have full control and the Bells having none.

Edited July 27, 201213 yr by wingwalker

Currently things point to Sheffer possibly staying in some capacity, but that could change soon. Waiting on info from someone, so stay tuned.

Yes, get rid of that Hack Sheffer!

Currently things point to Sheffer possibly staying in some capacity, but that could change soon. Waiting on info from someone, so stay tuned.

I think it was announced sometime last year that Sheffer renewed his contact, so I assume if he's staying for a bit, it's to finish off his contact cycle.

Though, his cycle may be up soon too, so that may be why we're also hearing he might be fired as well.

Edited July 27, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Re: the GH debate, I remember the sides on that girl. It was a cousin from the Soleito crime family that originated with Tracy on The City. Garin Wolf was bringing the character in and was big on the Soleito connection. I find it very plausible to believe they would've aged her up for Tamara Braun - which would've been another dumb idea like Claudia Zacchara, as opposed to just bringing her or Sarah Brown back as Carly.

Do you remember the audition script? Sides say whatever they want all the time. The script was clearing Kristina.