Members Mr. Vixen Posted May 3, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't see how it's any different then Niki Smith...People laughed at her for years. She was another personality, and an entertaining one. Just like Connie. Except Niki was.....better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 That cheap thing at the start? Did they punch each other after that? Niki wasn't in any stories about how hot it is to rape a mentally ill woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted May 3, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I know I'll get stoned for this, but I still don't see Johnny/Connie as rape....Technically "Kate" is mentally ill I guess. But Connie's one half of Kate. And Kate may not have consented, but Connie did. Just like when Kate sleeps with Sonny, Connie isn't consenting cause she hates him. Was it wrong of Johnny? Yes. But rape? Eh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 Sonny doesn't know about Connie. Johnny knew, and said it was rape. Connie had a "funny" scene where she said she would cry rape. The show wanted viewers to get hot over a mentally ill woman giving it up, and also take a little jab at people who see this as rape. RC loves this type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted May 3, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 You may be right. I can't speak too much more as I've only seen bits and pieces of that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 You've probably seen as much as I have. I guess it's not worth rehashing anyway. I just hate seeing grown women repeatedly written like trash. Carly and Connie are both disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted May 3, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 At least the writing for Heather has been pretty good. Was Felicia on today?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 Please that was one of those cheap 80s style fights where no one really got hurt because they barely touched each other. Now Nicole and Sami's fight where both were bloodly was a a better fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 Niki was reviled in the last 10 years. The writing and story was more complex in the 80s and 90s but by the time Niki was appearing inthe 00s, the DID was a complete joke and she became a complete cartoon, even more so than before. Playing Niki brought out the worst in ES and the writing wasnt good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DynamiteKiddo Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't think that was the intention with that 'twist' . . . first off, that whole Feb. Sweeps was expediently rewritten and there was a fair amount of comedy with Nurse Charles/Stacy and Charlie/Dorian, but even with those pairs, the drama got serious once everyone was in too deep. But the Mitch/Jess thing, I think, was meant to reinforce Mitch's sicko-ness/insanity and, ya, to shock the audience. I thought it was really effective, however unpopular an opinion that might be. I hated the following teen Jess story, though. The problem with how RC has been straddling between the comedy and seriousness on GH is that the line isn't defined. Everything he had success with on OLTL is not translating on GH (not that he should be trying to mimic his "One Life" style anyway) . . . it's obvs. to me that Connie's supposed to be funny, but it's disturbingly not obvs. to me if we're supposed to take Johnny's anxiety over what he did (and it was reprehensible and I hate he's being thrown under the Sonny bus) seriously. Connie reacted the way she did because that's in line with her 'characterization,' but how the audience was supposed to react felt ambiguous and that's troubling given the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I think the scenes with Mitch and Jessica were supposed to be some type of shock value turn-on. Look how far they're taking this, is he going to have sex with her, OMG, this is wild stuff! There was a lot of sadism in these scenes, as they wrote it as very sexual. That they never addressed this afterwards, instead having Viki upset over Charlie hanging out with Dorian, not upset over her daughter's brainwashing and near-rape, tells me they thought it was hot and cool, nothing more. Then they turned it into haha time with Teen Jess. I think we're supposed to see this as a sign of what a bad person Johnny is. He knows it was rape, and he did it anyway. RC's heroes, like Victor, and Ford, never saw what they did as rape. They saw what they did as love. And Ron backed them up all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I just saw this on Tumblr and I love it. Its exactly how I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 I wonder why people are so surprised by this behavior, or see it as wrong. This is the typical behavior of men on today's soaps. We're supposed to cheer when men throw women out of ambulances, when men terrorize women into miscarriages and throw their fetuses into the fire, when men bar women from seeing their dying children, when men laugh about the gang rape they led. The worst of this is the only reason Jason's behavior is even slightly questioned by the show is because they want Sam to run to another man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 And there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted May 3, 2012 Members Share Posted May 3, 2012 Lol I'm sorry but I laughed when Victor did that to Diane's lying ass. She was faking misscarrying his child while trying to steal his company away at the same time and making it look like he was dying. And on top of that it was misuse of emergency services. She was far from innocent when he threw her out of the ambulance. And were we supposed to cheer on Adam for the fetus stuff because most of the town hates him and Ashley gives him a verbal beatdown any chance she gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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