No thanks to the Sam and Liz scene

+1 No way in hell.

Like you, I don't care about the fate of Jasam which is why I will be A-OK if they are dead so that I no longer have to see Sam (who seems to have some sort of life away from the roided goiter) stifle herself to coddle her shitty husband. If John McBain is the key to Sam actually getting away from the sucktastic mob circle and getting some sort of personality, then so be it.

No woman with John has ever had a personality.

It's official: Johnny is now Robert Ford

"thanks to Connie" excuse me Johnny??!!!

It's official: Johnny is now Robert Ford

"thanks to Connie" excuse me Johnny??!!!

Ford was written as a hero. Johnny will likely be roadkill. If BB goes in for a wax and makes fish faces in every scene, then he will be Ford.

Ford was written as a hero. Johnny will likely be roadkill. If BB goes in for a wax and makes fish faces in every scene, then he will be Ford.

Livia just slapped Heather. I hope she kills her

Please tell me that this show ended with Heather shanking this ho the same way that Konnie bodied that cake...?

ICAM! It's one of the only things on this show that makes perfect sense under the circumstances.

Ron has managed to accomplish something that Guza never has - make me mildly interested in Sam McCall. He actually realized that Sam's permanent residence under Jasus' nutsack is a minus and not a plus for that character and actually has the nerve to introduce the possibility of a Jasus-less Sam.

As far as I'm concerned the destruction of this marriage is that best thing that could ever happen to Sam.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Heck one thing I'll say is Ron is finally writing Sam in character, instead of the poor put upon saint Guza tried to write her as

If I saw this great personality change in Sam then I would be happy, but she is still a broken, depressed person. And that is what she will be no matter what, because that's RC's only way of writing a woman, besides bad drag queen imitation.

No woman with John has ever had a personality.

Blair, Marty, Evangeline, and Natalie had plenty of personality. Whether they were likable personalities is a matter of personal taste.

Heck one thing I'll say is Ron is finally writing Sam in character, instead of the poor put upon saint Guza tried to write her as

Guza wrote her as about ten different things. Victim, bitch, psycho, etc.

She still seems stuck in victim mode to me.

Blair, Marty, Evangeline, and Natalie had plenty of personality. Whether they were likable personalities is a matter of personal taste.

Did they have a personality when they were with John?

Blair - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like an old shoe.

Marty - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like an old shoe.

Natalie - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like several old shoes.

Evangeline may have been different, I don't know. I wasn't watching at the time.

Did they have a personality when they were with John?

Blair - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like an old shoe.

Marty - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like an old shoe.

Natalie - clingy, needy, desperate. Dumped like several old shoes.

Evangeline may have been different, I don't know. I wasn't watching at the time.

They sure did have personalities when they were with McBain. They weren't always likable ones, but they had personality, nevertheless - which is more than I can say for Sam during her tenure with Jasus.

Edited April 25, 201213 yr by VirginiaHamilton

LOL...Eva was written as clingy, needy and desperate and yes she was dumped like an oldshoe

Edited April 25, 201213 yr by Cheap21

To me they were the same as Sam is with Jason - they put up with endless crap because they lived their lives for John. The only difference so far is that they would each become "crazy" or "bad", and do insane things, again, to keep John. Then he would pout at them as punishment and they would be tossed aside while he found another woman to save.

To me they were the same as Sam is with Jason - they put up with endless crap because they lived their lives for John. The only difference so far is that they would each become "crazy" or "bad", and do insane things, again, to keep John. Then he would pout at them as punishment and they would be tossed aside while he found another woman to save.

Bravo. I think for me Marty was the worst but all you need to do is look and see how Natalie was with Jared vs John. John is as emotionally distant if not more so than Jackass Jason. It's why to me Sam is still as dull and comatose with John as she is with Jason. She had a totally different energy with Lucky and not the cry baby Lucky.