Members Susan Hunter Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I have two. 1) I don't get the Ron Carlivati love. I'm not saying that he is a bad writer, but I just don't understand the falling down adoration. To me, he just does a bunch of soap cliches, adds some camp, throws in a wink at the audience. Wash, rinse, repeat. Brad Bell has been doing the same thing for years and people call him a hack. 2) I think bringing the OLTL characters over to GH is a big mistake. I believe they could have accomplished the same thing by casting those actors as new characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think there's genuine respect for his work as a writer, but I also think that his looks and the bandwagon affect play a part. He was someone who was new as a headwriter and therefore, Branco and those at DC can act like they helped make him a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I know for me personally, I actually was interested to watch the show again in 2008 after leaving in 2003/2004 after the Holdens were written out (okay, I entered high school at the same time, but I might have cared a little more if I was interested by what I heard about during the Higley era--I'm kinda interested in going back to see some of it). I know a lot of people thought Higley had ignored the show's history, and I do think that Ron was good at incorporating parts of the show's history into the current show, but sometimes he still fell flat (sometimes glaringly flat). Still, I enjoyed quite a bit of the show last year, and I do still wish it luck once the Daytime Emmys are announced (which I still find excitement for sometimes--who knows why, but I kind of would love it if OLTL got the Outstanding Drama Series Emmy as a middle finger to ABC for treating it like a red headed step child. Immature? A bit, yes, but it's just how I feel.). I also think people appreciated him (and FV) not being mob happy like Guza (and JFP) over at GH. Speaking of which, I still think it's possible that they are setting up the final, true downfall of the mob on GH--I hope so, anyway. Here's a bit of a UO: No matter how much good Michael Malone did for OLTL, I don't know if I could ever look past how he killed off Gabrielle. It was so disgusting and such an insult to her character. As if her life hadn't been tragic enough already. I know he wasn't big on presumed deaths (which can be a blessing) but still, killing her off and keeping his beloved Luna's GHOST around? UGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I actually thought it was an amazing story until they tried to redeem the rapists and turn Todd into a star. I refused to watch the rest of the 90's story on Youtube after that happened. Because it was just too deplorable to imagine Marty speaking with her rapist day in and day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I don't see any difference between FV/RC's mob writing and Guza's. Sonny has the same story Guza gave him ten times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted April 16, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 *cough*LANE*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 True but I think Susan has a valid point. Brad Bell has been writing like RC for years and he gets lambasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I can name characters on every show. GG at Days, ME now at GH is the obvious one since he's done nothing to improve ratings, or any couple that anyone ships. Not since the days of LnL or Bope have couples done s thing for ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I can name characters/actors on every shope as well. I see some actors being called fanfavs and have to laugh because it's obvious not many are watching for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 His being around for years as headwriter is probably a reason for the lack of hoopla. That and B&B just never being a show which had major notice online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Shoot I'll say it. He's a bad writer! Because a good writer doesn't rely soley on cliches and repeating them over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Jason's storyline isnt mob related. Sonny's story isnt mob intense either. Its a backdrop to his character, but so far we havent see the typical mob war stuff that Guza did with the action intense scenes. No shootouts, bombs or violence yet. I think there's definetly a difference in how the mob has been approached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I don't think they have been as focused on mob stories in recent years, perhaps due to budget. Anthony and Franco replaced the mobsters who would pop up for a year or so and then be killed off in a big slo-mo shootout. Sonny's stories have been more about his family, while Jason has had more and more about Franco and the repetition of baby problems/brain problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Except there really haven't been any big mob stories in years unless I guess you call the stupid Balkan story a mob story. Frankly it still all seems repetitive. No one cares about Franco they haven't since the day he showed up and Jasons brain issues have been off and on for many years. Add in that Jason and Sam are like watching a turtle in a sprint. I don't get the appeal of them anymore like at all. I think they were onto something diff with Sonny and Dante until it was just again the same old Sonny is just really a nice misunderstood guy BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Yes I would call the Balkan story a mob one. That was the typical Guza violence. Kidnapping, car bombs, shootouts, Sam packing heat as Jason's sidekick, multiple threats on Brenda's life, etc... and that was just last year. Balkan was a big mobster with a vendetta and Guza brought him on in this umbrella story which ran for months. RC is very early in his writing so maybe he will go down that route; maybe not. But as of now, he isnt writing a mob heavy show. Its very light on the mob stuff and not emphasized as we have seen under Guza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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