Members JaneAusten Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think the lack of shootings and such is more about lack of budget than a deliberate decision to move away from it. Wolf didn't really do anything like shootings and such. I think when people say mob they mean the endless repetitive stories for the same 3 people. 15 years nonstop on the FB is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Yep. And if we're going by this logic and saying RC isnt doing mob stories than GW didn't do any either. As far as I'm concerned if it's about the people in the mob, it's a mob story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I was thinking more about how on OLTL, there was no mob, though. The LPD was also often written to be smarter (by daytime standards, at least) than the PCPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Smarter? I remember Mcbain being similar to Jason and breaking the law whenever he deemed fit! And for someone who used to be a lawyer RC sure can't write law stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Well, maybe they were just treated with more respect by the writers than the PCPD, I dunno. But yes, even with the argument that trial stuff on TV can't go on forever, I've always heard people say that RC's law stories leave a lot to be desired. Here's three soap theme song UOs: 1. The ATWT 1993-1999 theme song? Love it. 2. The Y&R porn theme? Love it too. (Why do they still use it on the bumpers years later? That confuses me.) 3. The GL Disco theme? Yep. (ditto the 1996 jazz version of Hold on to Love) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 oh I don't doubt that budget has played a big role in things but it is what it is. The show currently isn't as mob centric as it used to be No one said RV isn't doing min stories and the comparison has been to Guza not GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 *sigh* The fact that John McBain is on this show and isn't kissing the asses of the PC citizens (who have been browbeaten into accepting mob rule) speaks volumes as to how Cartini's writing is an improvement over what Guza shat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 They werent a constant force but he's had the mob on OLTL. Cole and Stare had a story featuring the Russian mob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 John's reasons for disliking the mob mostly just amount to a dead sister, and he has little problem hanging around a longtime mob moll. As always most of the anti-mob talk is on the surface and the mobsters have done little in way of actual crimes, according to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 John's motivation doesn't matter to me one iota. Long as he keeps the hate going strong and isn't playing by the same rules that the PC folk have resigned themselves to, then I am good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think that RC/FV are doing good work at GH. Is it perfect? Nope. But it's lightyears ahead of Guza and GW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I tend to think it's unpopular to not see them as perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I can't speak on GW, but you're absolutely correct about RC/FV being light years ahead of Guza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ida. On sites like DC yes because they are cheerleaders but I don't see overall gushing for them like you had with them on OLTL. And I know this is unpopular but structurally I think bob Guza was a better writer. I felt he knew for the most part how to build and craft a story and he was actually more effective under Better leadership like Wendy Riche. He just never should have had any creative control over the show. I think Carlivati has a lot of problems with story primarily letting them Peter out and not playing climaxes and fallout well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 16, 2012 Members Share Posted April 16, 2012 I agree!! That seems to be the unpopular opinion as many are hailnig whatever crap they put out as soap opera gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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