Members alphanguy74 Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Alvin, what you are saying makes perfect sense. Why else would Whitney do so many drugs if it wasn't to hid emotional pain? she had everything else in the world. The deep homophobia within the black church is really INTENSE, don't underestimate it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 It reminds me of when Luther Vandross died and Bruce Villanch wrote that he was "in the life" and they'd had a conversation about what revealing that would mean for his career. This is of course an issue worth discussing, but I don't know how I feel about people jumping to reveal! mere days after a person has passed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Which is crazy ironic seeing as how the most gays in church on Sunday morning are probably black. If she was struggling with her feelings for Robyn/sexuality in general, that may have been a part of it, but that wouldn't explain Bobby's issues. I think they honestly liked to party and it soon got WAY out of hand and extrememly dangerous/destructive/disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I don't want to go OT, let's keep this on Whitney, but on the subject of homosexuality, drug abouse, and the black church, you may be interested in the Billy Preston episode of Unsung. Molestation was also involved, so that's a whole 'nother issue, but... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I imagine Clive Davis had a lot to do with it as well, since he likes to keep people on a very tight leash. I know there were also rumors about Taylor Dayne, and he later used her as some cautionary tale (although that was for her music, not any sexuality). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Yes, Clive is like that, Carl. That's the main reason that Martha only recorded one album for Arista... her exact words about Clive were "That man ain't gonna tell me how to sing!" And Taylor Dane is very open now, and has been for quite some time. Thanks, SFK... i'll watch that Billy Preston unsung... that's a great series. I acutally think at some point Robyn is gonna spill the beans, and lay the whole thing out in the open... I would almost lay money on Seeing Robyn do an exclusive with Barbara Walters. Edited February 21, 2012 by alphanguy74 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Per Robyn last week in Esquire: http://www.esquire.c...houston-6654718 Edited February 21, 2012 by Y&RWorldTurner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think Whitney's issues were mostly related to success, being an instant success at 21 and then going on to be an industry icon puts brings a lot of pressure to meet expectations. If you think about it, it would be scary to shoot to the level of success Whitney was had at the very height of her career, that is a lot to take on and an escape of some sort would be necessary for some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angela Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Is TMZ everywhere? I guess people send them footage as well. Extra picking up on a TMZ story (footage of Whitney watching the SuperBowl/SB half-time show with friends)... http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2012/02/video_whitney_houston_watching_madonnas_superbowl_halftime_show.php?adid=trendingstories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) That looks like some looky-loo recorded that on their phone and couldn't wait to sell it once she passed. I won't be surprised if security footage of her last trips to the drug and grocery stores starts popping up. I read that Whitney was named after Whitney Blake from Hazel, Meredith Baxter Birney's mother, but I just read that she was named after a character on a sixties soap opera. Only Whitney I can think of is Raven Whitney and she came much later. Carl, anyone, any ideas? Geraldine Whitney Saxon? Edited February 21, 2012 by SFK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Whitney was born before EON's Geraldine was created. I'm not sure who it could be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) I read years ago that she was named after Blake, so I think that is who is really was named after. Someone may have confused "Hazel" as a soap opera, since it is one of those sitcoms that many haven't heard of before. Edited February 22, 2012 by ReddFoxx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Someone took a photo of Whitney inside the coffin. ET is reporting it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yeah, they showed the pic on The Talk today. I hope the person who sold it to The Enquirer gets revealed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Somewhere, Will Smith is breathing a sigh of relief. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-usa-campaign-debate-idUSTRE81L0AD20120223 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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