RC's recent comment to a fan...

@carlivatiron Thinking someone is 17 due to ECT and not being able to make rational choices = mentally impaired and unable to give consent.

RC: Not true. Jess KNEW she wasn't 17. Ford took advantage of an amnesiac who was upset that her H.S. boyfriend got engaged. #notrape

@carlivatiron Breaking a woman out of a mental institution and having sex with her = rape.

RC: Then I assume you think Nash was a rapist too.

Oh my Lord. I wish someone would take RC's twitter account away, it's making me take back any good will I was feeling. Even if Jessica rationally knew her correct age she still felt and acted like a 17 year old--full stop. There are many extremely mentally ill people in real life who have been told and know that they have a disease and the rality they perceive isn't "real"--it doesn't change their own situation however.

LOL at your avatar SFK.

As much as I love being greeted by Melissa's titty when I click into a thread, SFK just isn't SFK with a new avatar!!

Booooooooooooobies!!!!

LOL!

LOL, I created a new OLTL avatar but it's not working and I plugged Natalie in from my computer as a test. I hope y'all enjoyed the girls' brief visit. I like to refer to them as two luscious cups of ginger tea-tea.

Edited January 10, 201213 yr by SFK

Off-topic, but I can't remember it this was ever posted back during Erika's 40 anniversary on OLTL, but thought it was a nice tribute to her by Tony Geary.

I was waiting for her to turn into a demon and take Bo to Hell. Not that he deserves to be there cause he totally don't. But, wow...She was a very horny angel. Is this Muslim heaven but with non-virgins (cause we sure know she wasn't one of them.) Haha!

She had a complicated relationship with God, for sure (I think she was originally going to be a nun in Argentina when she met and lost her virginity to Max), but she has always been more of an anti-heroine than a straight-up villainess. Maybe right before she went to prison in 1991 she was near there (and there were SOME traces of this when she returned in 2001), but even in her last scene then you could see she had a good (and very damaged) heart.

I SO need to write a fanfic about Max being seduced into Heaven by Gabrielle now, sexy angel dress and all. I KNOW they're in Argentina now , but the concept is just too good. He wouldn't stand a chance once he saw her.

Sorry, guys. My one track Max/Gabrielle lovin' mind went into overdrive the minute Gabrielle was onscreen again. I'll try to keep it in check .

Edited January 10, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Robin Strasser joins the off Broadway show "Love, Loss & What I Wore" in February

http://broadwayworld...bruary-20120109

Great news--my New York friend who is oddly obsessed with that one woman show saw it last when Kim Zimmer was in it and met her after--(Ilene and a few other OLTL cast members were in the audience). I'm sure he'll go again

Good for her! I am going to go see this.

Wait, 80 bucks?

A bit much ofr a one woman Off Broadway show but my friend says it's aVERY easy to get rush tickets for 30 bucks or so to. Then again maybe all the SOS One Life people will have bought up the tickets

You guys can judge for yourselves:

UGH I feel like forcing RC to watch that but I guess it's not worth it.

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Thus far: #AllMyChildren's final week > #OneLifetoLive's final week

Who's Meg Masters? LOL Anyway I think it's apples and oranges. AMC was wise to dedicate most of the final week to family specific episodes (even if some like the Hubards worked better than the Kane one)--it fit the show beter. OLTL at this point couldn't really do that, and this kind of drama seems more reflectiver of the show. I'm curious to see what the rest of the week will be like.

I like Meg Masters, but OLTL has been so much better than AMC's final week, there was too much David saves lives overkill for my taste with AMC

There was in the final few weeks, but not really much at all in the actual final week.

Thats a matter of opinion. I think the last 2 weeks of AMC while not as flashy and entertaining to many, did a lot to restore the small town community feel and the sense of family AMC had lost and I thought the family days were pure gold. we can all point to things we liked and dislike. OLTL has more flash and action and compelling story I guess but they also had more time than AMC did.

That's how I feel. OLTL couldn't really do a lower key wrap up focusing on families anyway--with Dorian gone, and the only other major family being the Buchanens. For the most part (arguments of cliffhanger side) it seemed to represent AMC fairly well, better than I had hoped, and AMC to me has for a long time now been a less action heavy show than OLTL.

Was John Wesley Shipp trying for some type of Louisiana accent?

I see Eddie still looks like he wants to make out with the Fords.

Hasn't that always been his weird accent? I admit I don't get the acting choice at all--the way he flails around plus the camp accent and calling his sons "baby" he always comes off as a creepy hick gay predator to me (and no, that's not due to rumours of Shipp's personal life--I never thought that way of him in past roles...)

Alright people just get over it -- I hate Ford but the whole "rape" thing is just ridiculous, even if she was actually physically 17 - it's her right and will to have sex with whoever she wants. It's gross and even illegal in some places, but the banter is just ridiculous. If it were a 17 year old boy and a cougar going after him, no one really bitches that much. It's like a twisted form of sexism... sorry all. If Jessica thought she were 13 or 14, it would be another story.

It's an argument that probably won't change anyone's minds, but I suggest watching the scene posted of her "loeve making" with Ford and tell me that she wasn't taken advantage of, and seemed to find the whole experience humiliating, confusing and upsetting.

You know what bugs me about the Ford Jessica stuff most is that bloggers and the soap press seem to go out of their way to avoid criticizing RC of anything but don't hesitate to go after Y&R for things as repulsive and its completely warranted so why does Ron get a free pass,

There's a certain cult of personality which circles around certain writers or producers - it becomes about them, and how awesome they are supposed to be, and their actual work is an afterthought. This first started with JFP and I remember it being a big thing in the soap magazines when Guza returned to GH in late 1997. The most recent incarnations have been Sheffer at all his soaps, RC, and MAB in the days when seemingly every soap blog or publication had interviews kissing her a$$ and indulging her in shocking quotes like Bill Bell sitting on her shoulder.

I didn't think it was offputting as much as it was a little confusing - if she was supposed to help him, then she went about it a strange way; their relationship was never really about hot sex, and I couldn't tell if she thought this would draw him into the other life, or if she was trying to get him to stay with Nora, or if she was just very horny. The scenes were fun but also somewhat pointless. I wonder if they wrote something with Gabrielle and Max but then they couldn't get JdP or they were told not to bring him back.

Hunt and JvD did work well together. The contrast between Stacy/Clint and the Fords was striking - I actually bought what was going on with Stacy and Clint, whereas JWS still seemed stuck in one of SNL's old Bad Theater sketches. Even the whole "bursting through from black to white" moment was less ridiculous with Clint - he didn't look like a dumbass headless chicken.

It helped too that he burst into Heaven to find Vicki--Ford burst through to see... Luna. Who he has zero connection to, and Cole whose only connection with was the Hannah mess.

Gabrielle doing her dance seduction was kinda weird, but I didn't really mind. It made sense to me that she was the one who seemed the most keen on trying to get her dead Llanview person to stay, even though she wasn't all bad and accepted it when he didn't in the end.

I like how at the end of the day Eric comes by and sort of debriefs/recaps the day's discussion with his posts. I will miss OLTL discussion.

You know what bugs me about the Ford Jessica stuff most is that bloggers and the soap press seem to go out of their way to avoid criticizing RC of anything but don't hesitate to go after Y&R for things as repulsive and its completely warranted so why does Ron get a free pass,

There's some sort of accepted belief among the majority of soap bloggers that RC is *brilliant* and to genuinely complain about sometbhing he does is to harm the the most "groundbreaking" soap still on the air or something. I don't really get it--you can like a man's work and still be ok with questioning some of his work or even insulting it.

I like how at the end of the day Eric comes by and sort of debriefs/recaps the day's discussion with his posts. I will miss OLTL discussion.

LOL Sorry, it's a bad habit, and I find it really difficult to not respond to posts while I read them... (I will be watching Friday's live, albeit West Coast time) All done

Edited January 10, 201213 yr by EricMontreal22

Hasn't that always been his weird accent? I admit I don't get the acting choice at all--the way he flails around plus the camp accent and calling his sons "baby" he always comes off as a creepy hick gay predator to me (and no, that's not due to rumours of Shipp's personal life--I never thought that way of him in past roles...)

Probably. I just skipped most of his scenes before. It's just so self-conscious and you never can connect to the characters. I think that hollowness is very distracting, you see the strings too much (like the "clever" writing in Clint and Viki collapsing next to each other). Moments like the unspoken connection between Viki and Megan and the "you look beautiful" conversation are much better and more believable.

LOL Sorry, it's a bad habit, and I find it really difficult to not respond to posts while I read them... (I will be watching Friday's live, albeit West Coast time) All done

No! That was a kind-spirited remark! It's nice.

No! That was a kind-spirited remark! It's nice.

Ha, ok then Cuz it'll probably keep up till Friday.

Probably. I just skipped most of his scenes before. It's just so self-conscious and you never can connect to the characters. I think that hollowness is very distracting, you see the strings too much (like the "clever" writing in Clint and Viki collapsing next to each other). Moments like the unspoken connection between Viki and Megan and the "you look beautiful" conversation are much better and more believable.

A lot of RC's cleverer stuf that has gotten him a lo of praise, I admit, has seemed too clever by half to me as well, more oftne than not. It's like you say--when you see the strings it draws you out (Ron hasn't helped lately with his crazy tweets, like last week when he was tweeting making sure that people got the reference to Elvis Costello's Allison, etc).