Brooke and Erica don't really HATE each other though. They annoy each other, but they're not knock-down/drag-out style rivals.

Oh I think there was a time they did hate each other but over the years that hatred has grown into I think an appreciation for each others good qualities over the petty jealousies.

Yeah. They can be snarky with each other over their history with various men, but it's not like they go out of their way to plot schemes against each other or anything like that. If they were doing all of that kind of stuff over men now, then they'd be pathetic.

I just always thought there was a deeper reason for it all though. To me that all just sounds quite petty and shallow. I personally can't even believe that Brooke entertains it. Erica I can believe would be like that, she is still trapped in middle school. But Brooke? Brooke is too mature and distinguished to participate in something so juvenile as engaging in a baseless rivalry because they both dated the same men.

There is depth to the feud. Today's script, of course written by the wretched Rebecca Taylor, didn't delve into it -- although the script did mention the two of them having a lot more in common than either would care to admit.

I think a huge part of the feud is that both of these women see the other one as undeserving of the things they have in life. Erica sees Brooke as being undeserving because Brooke, in her opinion, is common and doesn't have the beauty, sex appeal and subsequent fame that she has. Brooke sees Erica as undeserving because she has all of this fame, beauty and romance, but does everything in her power to ruin it. It's just that over the years, it has manifested itself in their fighting over the same men... Tom, Adam, Jack, Dimitri. However, plenty of times, over the years of their feud, nuggets of the truth regarding their resentment of each other comes out. It's just that it's easier for these two to fight over men rather than say "I hate you because I envy you!"

Very good show today ending a pretty solid week if you ignore Monday.

Would Stuart's name have meant anything to Griffin if it was on the list? Or maybe he was only reacting to Babe's name?

The Castillo's have no history with either Babe or Stuart.

What's the song that was played during Jesse and Angie's scenes? I saw on pages before it was called Dust or something but I can't find it.

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The Castillos don't have a connection any of the most likely people to be resurrected though haha

There could be Julia. Since we know Griffin knows about Maria/Maureen. But yeah that's unlikely.

UGH Cara. This Is My Baby!

UGH Jessie He broke The Law!

Zach is snuggie eating wings

David Smiling, looks so good behind those bars.

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I don't think the Erica and Brooke rivalry was ever that shallow and just about men. And even with the men it was more than just romance. Brooke and Mark Dalton had an affair but it was never more than that but they then became very good friends and Erica resented that. I think Erica was always insecure over Brooke's smarts and intelligence and breeding to an extent and Brooke over Erica's beauty, ambition, and success. But underneath all of this I think the 2 women developed a mutual respect for each other much like Viki and Dorian did over the years. I don't believe you could maintain a real rivalry between the 2 for so many years if it was just about men. Thats exactly why for example Sam and Liz's rivalry on GH a more male focused show became tedious and uninteresting. because it was all centered about someones *ick.

Add to that that Erica, until Opal and a few other scattered people, always had a hard time being friends with other women--for a variety of issues. I know some women like that-- It is like Vicki/Dorian in many ways.

Ok I plead ignorant. What is the significance of the redwings stuff

It's Thorsten Kaye's "kinda cute" way of injecting his "kinda cute" obsession with the Detroit Red Wings into the character of Zach and the show of All My Children... so he can promote his favorite hockey team in a "kinda cute" way.

So, basically... Thorsten Kaye's been given complete authorization to use the Zach Slater character to do his personal bidding. Isn't that "kinda cute?"

There is depth to the feud. Today's script, of course written by the wretched Rebecca Taylor, didn't delve into it -- although the script did mention the two of them having a lot more in common than either would care to admit.

I think a huge part of the feud is that both of these women see the other one as undeserving of the things they have in life. Erica sees Brooke as being undeserving because Brooke, in her opinion, is common and doesn't have the beauty, sex appeal and subsequent fame that she has. Brooke sees Erica as undeserving because she has all of this fame, beauty and romance, but does everything in her power to ruin it. It's just that over the years, it has manifested itself in their fighting over the same men... Tom, Adam, Jack, Dimitri. However, plenty of times, over the years of their feud, nuggets of the truth regarding their resentment of each other comes out. It's just that it's easier for these two to fight over men rather than say "I hate you because I envy you!"

Yeah, whatever... I'm ignoring you!

I missed today's show, so will have to watch online.

Is that Zach in a Red Wings Snuggie???

Yes it is. He was being Al Bundy today

freudian slip

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Brooke was always well respected by everyone and that drove Erica nuts. Then there was the Tom element, and then came Adam and the magazine stuff. It was just a case of wherever they went the other was there and each one drove the other up the wall because Erica got everything because she was oh so fab, and Brooke rolled her eyes at that, and Brooke got everything despite not being oh so fab, and this was sort of an invalidation of Erica's merits in her eyes. And Erica's successes cheapened Brooke's successes because Brooke ran a magazine, Erica ran a magazine, Brooke was friends with Jeremy, Erica was in love with Jeremy. And on and on.

Brooke did take all of Erica's leftovers though, no denying that. It was nice seeing Brooke today and I felt bad watching them because it seemed so lonely, like this is it--one last spat for old time's sake.

I wonder if Debbi Morgan wakes up in the morning knowing she's awesome?

She'd better!

I like Jesse the husband so much better than Jesse the Hypocrite Cop!

What exactly does Kendall want Zach to do? I'm not really sure what expectations there are for people when they come back from the dead.

Well since the kids were playing quietly in the other room, I think she expected him to jump her bones.

Go back to being dead? Works for me

LMAO! Brooke showing up was SOOOO random

I actually loved how Brooke just showed up instead of waiting until the end to see her.

LMAO Brooke and Erica already throwing zingers = WINNING

Yes, it definitely felt like the good old days!

I do wonder if they're going to reveal that David accidentally used the death drug on Dixie while trying to "save" Babe from JR.

I like this plot twist; it explains why Alexander Cambias swore he didn't kill her and rewrites Pratt's nonsense that Adam did.

That was a heartbreaking scene with Angie and Jessie. No words spoken

ICAM.

I have a feeling Maya might have a change of heart

Yeah, I think when she starts having to take care of the baby by herself and when Liza starts reminding her how much Angie & Jesse love Lucy, Maya will come to realize that Lucy's better off with the Hubbards. I'm expecting her to return Lucy and tell them she wants them to adopt her by Thursday or Friday.

Perfect last scene. I teared up :-\

Me, too!

I don't think the Erica and Brooke rivalry was ever that shallow and just about men. And even with the men it was more than just romance. Brooke and Mark Dalton had an affair but it was never more than that but they then became very good friends and Erica resented that. I think Erica was always insecure over Brooke's smarts and intelligence and breeding to an extent and Brooke over Erica's beauty, ambition, and success. But underneath all of this I think the 2 women developed a mutual respect for each other much like Viki and Dorian did over the years. I don't believe you could maintain a real rivalry between the 2 for so many years if it was just about men. Thats exactly why for example Sam and Liz's rivalry on GH a more male focused show became tedious and uninteresting. because it was all centered about someones *ick.

There is depth to the feud. Today's script, of course written by the wretched Rebecca Taylor, didn't delve into it -- although the script did mention the two of them having a lot more in common than either would care to admit.

I think a huge part of the feud is that both of these women see the other one as undeserving of the things they have in life. Erica sees Brooke as being undeserving because Brooke, in her opinion, is common and doesn't have the beauty, sex appeal and subsequent fame that she has. Brooke sees Erica as undeserving because she has all of this fame, beauty and romance, but does everything in her power to ruin it. It's just that over the years, it has manifested itself in their fighting over the same men... Tom, Adam, Jack, Dimitri. However, plenty of times, over the years of their feud, nuggets of the truth regarding their resentment of each other comes out. It's just that it's easier for these two to fight over men rather than say "I hate you because I envy you!"

Brooke was always well respected by everyone and that drove Erica nuts. Then there was the Tom element, and then came Adam and the magazine stuff. It was just a case of wherever they went the other was there and each one drove the other up the wall because Erica got everything because she was oh so fab, and Brooke rolled her eyes at that, and Brooke got everything despite not being oh so fab, and this was sort of an invalidation of Erica's merits in her eyes. And Erica's successes cheapened Brooke's successes because Brooke ran a magazine, Erica ran a magazine, Brooke was friends with Jeremy, Erica was in love with Jeremy. And on and on.

Brooke did take all of Erica's leftovers though, no denying that. It was nice seeing Brooke today and I felt bad watching them because it seemed so lonely, like this is it--one last spat for old time's sake.

Maybe I'm reading more into it, but I always thought part of Brooke considering Erica undeserving was based on the fact that she worked so hard to get where she was and Erica frequently got her jobs by sleeping with the man in charge.