Jeff threw that to him and even then he barely won.

Adam won nothing, jeff handed him POV. And his social game has sucked.

Shelly played a great social game until it blew up (and they ALWAYS blow up) and since then shes been smart and stayed with porche/kalia instead of trying to fix it and throw herself out at the alter to save saint jordan.

I just can not handle jordan or adam in final 2. id prefer racHELL over those two

I have a soft spot for Jordan, at times. Adam I just don't care for - he's a sycophant and very self-important and his attempts to be entertaining fall flat. I feel like he coasts through the game.

Chrishell Stause (Amanda, AMC) is PoV stalking like all of us, lol. She posted this a few moments ago on Twitter...

I'm DYING for the Veto comp to be played!! This one is for all the marbles vets!!! #teamJorchel #BB13

Good taste in teams :b

How do you feel about the live feeds this year? I haven't had live feeds since about BB7 or BB8. I know some fans say they show less and less each season. I wonder if they may eventually move away from them entirely. I hope not, as it's the best chance to get a full picture of people.

It really is the best way to get the true picture of each personality so it would suck without the feeds although they are interfering way too much with what we get in live feeds. If I only watched the CBS version, it would be such a different experience.

I think I read that the Live Feeds are doing really good business for them so I hope it continues.

Found the article...

It's difficult to say if "Big Brother" was ahead of the social media curve or just caught some lucky breaks. But the interactive tidal wave of the past decade has certainly served the reality series well.

'"It didn't begin as a social networking show, but as time went on, it clearly lent itself to that," says Leslie Moonves, president and CEO of CBS Corp. "The idea that viewers would watch those people eating their Cheerios on Showtime's 'After Dark,' then chat about what it all means online, is phenomenal."

While many shows are reaping the benefits of social networking, few have marshaled those forces as well as "Big Brother." Now in its 13th edition, the show is posting ratings gains for the second straight year. In its first six weeks, "Big Brother" was up 13% in adults 18-49 -- recently rating as the No. 1 broadcast series in this category -- while gaining about 5% in total viewers. It may surprise some that viewers could become addicted to watching everyday activities. Yet 24/7 feed subscribers are up 10% from last summer, and of those, 25% also pay for mobile access so they can watch even when they are away from a computer.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118041843?categoryid=14&cs=1&cmpid=RSS|News|LatestNews

Thanks. That's very interesting. I have heard they cut a lot more than they did in the early years (I had the feeds for BB2, which were a real rollercoaster). I'm glad they still have interest. I know the show lost ratings about midway through (season 6 seemed to start that, even thought season 6 is one of the most popular with hardcore fans) and it's been back and forth ever since. The last few years seem to have hit on a formula with contestants like Rachel, and the big loud DR sessions, etc. I always have a love/hate relationship with BB but I never do give it up. I hope they make a few changes though.

BB really is suited to a social media format, so it growing in today's culture makes sense. I'm surprised more networks haven't tried to borrow the formula.

PoV began around 15 minutes ago. Hopefully Jordachel's losing streak ends!

They're more popular than America's "BB Sweethearts" Jordan/Jeff, a Facebook page put up less than 24 hours ago. The power of being the underdog or hiding their stuffed dogs...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/America-Loves-Team-Jordachel/147317722023576?sk=wall

This cracked me up. Somebody over at the BB Joker's site was analyzing the potential results if the PoV was a "how long can you keep your mouth shut" competition...

2 Second mark: Kalia says "Peace out." She knows better than to even try. Kalia out.

5 minute mark: Porche looks at Jordan and waves, Jordan says "Hey Porche"...Jordan out.

30 Minute mark: Adam out of nowhere says "Bless you" and no one sneezed. He acts disappointed...yeah we all know he threw it. Adam out.

1 Hour mark: Shelly pulls Rachel's puppy out from under her shirt and dangles it at Rachel. Rachel shouts "You B*tch!" Rachel out.

1 Minute after Rachel exits. Porche leans towards Shelly and whispers an abortion joke. Porche out.

Shelly grabs the veto and runs back to purple room and tries to insert the veto into the Fortune Teller's coin slot. Much disappointment follows

Shelly has been obsessed with the FT all afternoon.

That's funny. I'd be surprised if Adam lasted that long.

Jordan asked Rachel earlier what made her and brenden come back, rachel said that 'they offered us enough of a chance at winning'

interesting choice of words.

Rachel won the Veto. Rachel and Jordan won't be going home Thursday. Shelly or Adam will be.

Rachel won the Veto. Rachel and Jordan won't be going home Thursday. Shelly or Adam will be.

HELL YES! YAY!!

Jordan asked Rachel earlier what made her and brenden come back, rachel said that 'they offered us enough of a chance at winning'

Dani has said suspicious things about how close [Dani] is to production as well. Who knows.

HELL YES! YAY!!

With that win they're unofficial Queens of the Castle. Porsche's HoH means as much as Kalia's first. They're safe and they vote (if Kalia votes, it's just one vote) on who goes out between Shelly and Adam. It's very satisfying because Porsche has been crazy conceited about how good she is versus how much they suck, not to mention the abortion comments. The evil side of me wants Rachel to make them all dance because of all the crap they talk behind her back for no reason. Even Adam does it. He didn't do it as much before, he wanted to fit in with the Mean Girls who want him out before Shelly.

Like i said the moment they put them back in pairs, why even contenue the season? Just remove everyone and cut ti finals with Jordan and rachel, its what the producers want and what is going to happen.

Rachel deserves to be safe, she fought for that veto. Jordan tho? Its bullshit and everyone knows it. Im glad to see that BBfans (who are not obsessed with Jordan/Jeff) are upset over how blatant it is this time around. Even the Dani fans are saying if it were flipped it would be fucked up.

I guess il tune out again unless somehow Kalia wins HoH next week. No point.

Im actually genuinely sad about this, as BB has always been my fave game the influence production has had has always at least been teased so they couldnt just force [!@#$%^&*] like this to happen. Ive defend the twists and turns over the years, and i still do. I would seriously have ZERO issue with this if at the end of the show thursday Julie said something about another twist awaits the players, or anything.

Sorry, rant over. And i know it comes off as a bitter newbie/dani fan, but i promise thats really not the case and if the roles were reversed i would be upset.