It's only been in the last ten years that they haven't allowed Ridge's siblings to have any stories whatsoever. They don't seem to realize that Ridge having no real family (I can't count worthless Eric, and Stephanie is more like his wife) just hurts the character. Meanwhile the people they DID bring back family for, like Brooke, didn't need it, and I can't think of one time that the recasts of Katie, Storm, or Donna (not even getting into the Beth fiasco) helped Brooke's story.

I dont feel as if they were brought on to necesarily help Brooke's story. Donna was brought in to replace her. After 20 years of sex scandals, sleeping her way through the Forrester family and all the drama that they had Brooke go through, that she was played out in that role. I think thats why they brought Donna on to be the new Logan slut of the show and they gave her Brooke's old storylines. They put her with Ridge and Thorne. Had her marry Eric and strike up a feud with Stephanie. She was Brooke the sequel and the show transitioned Brooke away from that type of stuff and focused more on her relationship with her children, namely Rick. I have to say one thing I liked about Donna coming on was bringing Pam on as her nemesis. They had some pretty hilarious moments.

I dont feel Storm really added much as what they did with him was just an extension of his late 80s story, centering around him being patriarch to his family and protective over his sisters bc he still hasnt gotten over his father leaving them.

Katie, I felt worked the best out of the Logan returns. She was the anti-Logan so to speak. Unlike her sisters, she wasnt a slut. She wasnt getting involved in scandals and actually had some true morals and sense of right and wrong. She was such a stark difference to them from her dark brown hair to her inner convictions. I felt she worked well as a good contrast to the shenanigans that Brooke and Donna got involved in and in many ways she was the voice of reason. Heather Tom came in and did wonders with the role. Too bad they went and ruined her the minute they had her have sex with and get pregnant by her niece's husband. They did that mess with Brooke and it nearly destroyed her and it did its damage with Katie as well.

One thing I HATED about the Logan revival was how they pushed the Forresters out of FC. Watching those bimbos strut around the office, having all those stupid photoshoots revolving around them was nauseating. It was too much. Donna and her honey bear crap was embarassing. Right before Katie married Bill, the 3 sisters had a sleepover and giggled and played around like little teenagers. I really wish they'd kill one of them off, preferably Donna bc she's rather redundant. Brooke doesnt need 2 sisters in town and Donna adds absolutely nothing to the show

Was just going to say that. Even in 2003 (which was still a great year) you could see and feel the rot setting in.

It's painful that Alden is back in the Bell universe and not writing for Y&R but being wasted away at B&B. If there is ever any person that can possibly restore the show to what it was, she's it. Although I'm afraid there might have been just too much damage done.

I wholeheartedly agree. Things changed in 2003, the tone shifted, it just seemed "different"...it was still great, especially compared to what we have now, but something changed behind the scenes with Jack assuming the top position.

Kay was the only writer who had the chops to keep up Bill's work, though she wasn't faultless either. I agree with the poster who said if the show had ended in 1999 it would have been PERFECT because the core of the show: Kay & Jill, Victor and Nikki and the Abbotts all had so much resolution. I almost wish it had.

The killing of Frankie Frame on AW was bad, but so was killing Ryan in a way that left no possibility of return. The sudden transformation of Maggie into a bad girl was harmful as well. And the MTV-style opening credits were awful.

On DAYS the obvious moment to look back at was John/Hope and Sub-sex. Another problem was Jack the clown and Jen the abusive wife. Dena's whole tenure was a disaster, one that could only be temporarily overcome by the Salem Serial Killer. Having Jack die repeatedly was ridiculous. Alex North was a disaster. And Steve's long awaited return was rushed through like it was something for the show to deal with and get past. That shouldn't have happened under any writer, but it was especially surprising for a guy like Jim Reilly, who dragged everything out to a fault. Finally, Hogan Scheffer had no clue what the show was all about.

Passion had a chance to succeed, however much some people didn't like the premise of the show, or JER's writing style. But Reilly was just too....Reilly....when the time came for the big reveal of Ethan's paternity. The characters spent 3 1/2 months on 2 days--really 36 hours. And the Bennett kids simply told Sam "everyone knows that Ethan is your son by Ivy Crane," with no real consequences or drama. Also, Ethan's determination to destroy the life of whoever leaked his mother's secret didn't make much sense, nor did his refusal to recognize that it wasn't Theresa.

But Reilly was just too....Reilly....

Pretty much.

Thorsten may be popular, but for my money, he didn't have the kind of chemistry with Minshew to justify the show revolving around them.

I thought they had good chemistry but the screentime they were getting was crazy. IINM AM set a couple of records for most appearances. A soap should be an ensemble imho.

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Philip is back and he is gay. This ruined the show for me, while at the same time Patty Williams was ruined in a horrible storyline, Brad and Colleen were killed (I guess MAB doesn't like her brother-in-law and his wife a lot), Adam became JR Ewing, Jill got a 30-year-old grandson and became Lauren's sister and Lane continued existing. IF there is ever a new group of people in charge, it will take them years to fix MAB's madness.

GL

The new production model. GL is no longer a soap opera.

Every other soap including AW, ATWT, OLTL and AMC didn't get a final blow. They could all be turned around.

AMC: Jean Passanante (or however you spell her surname) as HW. OMG, she sucked so bad.

But, not nearly as bad as Charlie Pratt..... he was the kiss of death, IMO. Much like Ellen Wheeler at GL.

Every other soap including AW, ATWT, OLTL and AMC didn't get a final blow. They could all be turned around.

I know you're a Santa Barbara fan and while I do think it could have been turned around (see my blog), surely you think it got some kind of final blow in its final years.

But, not nearly as bad as Charlie Pratt..... he was the kiss of death, IMO. Much like Ellen Wheeler at GL.

And LML at Y&R.

But, not nearly as bad as Charlie Pratt..... he was the kiss of death, IMO. Much like Ellen Wheeler at GL.

But Pratt killed Babe, Fetus Boy, Brought David back and VI won the emmy. He did more than any of the writers did.

As for who killed my soap, The Carey Ho's on AMC. The "I do everything out of love." ruined to many characters.

Simple. The writers.

Believe or not I actually LIKED AMC under Pratt.

It was much faster paced compared to B&E, and his start was actually the BEST AMC I have seen in YEARS.

1983 - When Henry Slesar, after 15 incredible years as head writer of 'The Edge of Night,' was replaced by Lee Sheldon. I thought it then, and I still feel the same way.

Believe or not I actually LIKED AMC under Pratt.

It was much faster paced compared to B&E, and his start was actually the BEST AMC I have seen in YEARS.

I dont get the immense Pratt hate. What was so bad about him compared to other horrendous writers in the last decade? People seem to pinpoint him as the absolute worse

I dont get the immense Pratt hate. What was so bad about him compared to other horrendous writers in the last decade? People seem to pinpoint him as the absolute worse

I never could get past Zach murdering Josh, Zach turning Reese straight, and Marian being taken to the nuthouse.