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5 hours ago, dc11786 said:

Craig Carlson is still credited in the August 9, 1991, episode on YouTube unless the episode credits were added in from another episode. Gottlieb is also not credited though she was reported as doing some behind the scenes work between May and July before her official start date. Raunch, who had previously quit, was suppose to stay on for two months until Linda Gottlieb was free, but he secured Santa Barbara and jumped ship. 

I know when I looked at this earlier in the year, Malone´s announcement was made in the same week as Mary Ryan Munisteri on Loving. I believe we were able to narrow down Munisteri´s start ot the second week of August. Malone´s is probably the same week. 

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22 hours ago, janea4old said:

I don't know if he was in the OLTL reunion photos at Eddie Alderson's wedding, but it looks like Tanner Woods (son of Robert Woods?) was one of the groomsmen.
https://www.theknot.com/us/sylwia-pracon-and-eddie-alderson-sep-2024/wedding-party

More Eddie Alderson wedding pics here, including one pic that has 
Kris&Eddie Alderson's father (Rich Alderson), Eddie, Tanner Woods (son of Robert), and Robert Woods
https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/oltl-alum-eddie-alderson-weds/

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Nicholas Walker undoubtedly had serious chemistry with Fiona Hutchison and was clearly very committed to the work, but his Max often comes off OTT and effete too much moving into the realm of camp. I'm curious how he was received (and how long it took Matt Kingston to be unmasked as Max in '90).

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Summer 1991: Viki just rolls with family acquaintance Alex taking her two younger children to Loon Lake out of nowhere. Times were different for us all.

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Did they end Kevin/Stephanie because Robyn Griggs & Joey Thrower did not get a long.

 

I know that Kevin & Lee Ann Hook up later that fall but I for one cant see how that happens

Lee Ann doesnt even seem as a popular role. 

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Yasmine Bleeth was a hot commodity on two soaps and later on Baywatch. It doesn't surprise me they held onto her, even if Lee Ann had a rocky start under Rauch. The thing with Nicholas Walker's Max is so gross. I'm not sure if they just waited out Bleeth's contract to play teen drama (the pregnancy and marriage to Kevin) or if they'd wanted her to stay longer, but she clearly wasn't going to. 

Stephanie doesn't seem to have ever worked - I think they recast a month in, and the character had only been on a little over two months before this nonsense with Kevin and his siblings trying to rescue her from Carlo. The whole thing with her singing Miami Sound Machine over and over is unbearable and I hope it wasn't Gottlieb's idea but given her focus on bringing in more contemporary music I wouldn't be shocked.

There were a lot of stories about Griggs being a problem BTS. I'm not sure if she even lasted six months on contract, as I think they brought her back in '92 for the Carlo murder mystery. I didn't know until recently there was any potential interruption in her run on the show. I may be wrong on that. This random hiatuses happened with a few people in both Malone runs, including Grace Phillips in 1992 who allegedly had a bad relationship with Gottlieb and bolted or was fired fast. From what I've seen she was very good. I know she was off for months and months after being played very heavy in early '92, then when she returned for maybe one or two days in November engaged to Bo she died in the car crash immediately.

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32 minutes ago, Vee said:

Yasmine Bleeth was a hot commodity on two soaps and later on Baywatch. It doesn't surprise me they held onto her, even if Lee Ann had a rocky start under Rauch. The thing with Nicholas Walker's Max is so gross. I'm not sure if they just waited out Bleeth's contract to play teen drama (the pregnancy and marriage to Kevin) or if they'd wanted her to stay longer, but she clearly wasn't going to. 

Stephanie doesn't seem to have ever worked - I think they recast a month in, and the character had only been on a little over two months before this nonsense with Kevin and his siblings trying to rescue her from Carlo. The whole thing with her singing Miami Sound Machine over and over is unbearable and I hope it wasn't Gottlieb's idea but given her focus on bringing in more contemporary music I wouldn't be shocked.

There were a lot of stories about Griggs being a problem BTS. I'm not sure if she even lasted six months on contract, as I think they brought her back in '92 for the Carlo murder mystery. I didn't know until recently there was any potential interruption in her run on the show. I may be wrong on that. This random hiatuses happened with a few people in both Malone runs, including Grace Phillips in 1992 who allegedly had a bad relationship with Gottlieb and bolted or was fired fast. From what I've seen she was very good. I know she was off for months and months after being played very heavy in early '92, then when she returned for maybe one or two days in November engaged to Bo she died in the car crash immediately.

OK TY

I am actually liking Joey Thrower as Kevin. Wonder why he was replaced? I really liked his replacement Kirk Geiger. I started watching OLTL in 1992 during the Billy Douglas story. 

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August '91. Did not realize Andy #1 and Hunter Guthrie were still on (and yet to marry) by the time Gottlieb and Malone are on the scene. Absolutely deranged scene in which Joey Thrower is chained up (in literal chains!) on Carlo's yacht by this preppy kid who wants to rape Stephanie. Bonkers.

I believe @Khan always said the resolution of this Friday cliffhanger in the first week of August - where "Hudson"/Cain thinks he's shot and killed by Tina by accident - was Malone and Gottlieb taking over the storyline to end it. I wondered if the sudden shift a few eps ago, where Cord learns the truth rather quickly, Cord and Tina finally talk things out in bed and then Tina goes to Asa and Renee to tell them about the Hudson mess and maturely own up to it was part of the writing change, but I know most anecdotal sources or research ( @dc11786 may know, or others - sorry, I just remembered they said Craig Carlson's name was still on 8/9) indicate Malone's name may only have officially been on the show the following week, not that that's a great indicator of anything sometimes. Either way, I'm there. They clearly knew Christopher Cousins and KW had chemistry though, as was evident in earlier scenes with her telling him lots of old stories about classic '80s plotlines while boozing it up. I feel fairly confident the episode a week or two before devoted to Tina's NYC makeover walking the streets to "Pretty Woman"(?) while Penn Jillette guest stars was Gottlieb (presumably sans Malone) running out the clock and experimenting, but who knows. 

They also briefly show Alex in Mountainview this week and Bo is convinced she's faking. They actually had Tonja Walker in exit notices in all the soap mags at this time, so I wonder if they decided to keep her before or after those scenes. Not long after this when her staying was confirmed, TW told the mags Alex was definitely faking.

I wonder why they replaced Joey Thrower later on; maybe too much of a babyface. He's not terrible, but not Kirk Geiger.

I talked about Nicholas Walker earlier, but his insistence on having Max adopt a broad Sweetwater yee-haw accent while palling around with the good ol' boys is deeply grating.

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1 hour ago, Vee said:

I believe @Khan always said the resolution of this Friday cliffhanger in the first week of August - where "Hudson"/Cain thinks he's shot and killed by Tina by accident - was Malone and Gottlieb taking over the storyline to end it. I wondered if the sudden shift a few eps ago, where Cord learns the truth rather quickly, Cord and Tina finally talk things out in bed and then Tina goes to Asa and Renee to tell them about the Hudson mess and maturely own up to it was part of the writing change, but I know most anecdotal sources or research ( @dc11786 may know, or others - sorry, I just remembered they said Craig Carlson's name was still on 8/9) indicate Malone's name may only have officially been on the show the following week

I think it's entirely possible - and, in fact, quite likely - that Michael Malone ghost-wrote the show, tweaking material as he saw fit, before his name began appearing in the credits.  He wouldn't have been the first HW to do that.  Either way, though, I definitely felt a shift in that storyline, which I wasn't a fan of to begin with, and then grew to like even less as Linda Gottlieb and Malone continued with it, adding Susan Diol to the mix as Angela Holliday, or whatever the hell her character's name was, lol.

TBH, my enjoyment of OLTL had pretty much stopped by the time Gottlieb and Malone's work began.  Gottlieb might've improved the production values, but the overall show just didn't feel like OLTL to me anymore.  Even Robin Strasser's return was a disappointment, as I felt she was ratcheting up her performance level in order to compete with her massive, Reba McEntire-like 'do at the time, lol.

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Whenever I think of the "Words Get in the Way" scenes I think of @Khan's old post (paraphrasing) which said those were not the best two actors to give a theme with that title. 

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