Members You're Soaking in it Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 The time line is just a little off... Gellar left just after the first McTavish rash of lookalikes (Tad / Ted; Will / Justin). Nixon was interim writing at the time of SMG's exit, shortly before Broderick returned to the show. I really noticed the change... more heart, stories from character, contemporary issues.. That's what really had me realize (hindsight being 20/20, as they say) just how off-course AMC had drifted by late-1994 / early-95. It was like a moment of "oh, yeah: THIS is the All My Children I know, but haven't quite seen in a few years." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 And that's what is both so [!@#$%^&*] sad and funny about AMC's situation. Chances are, if actors had known before the move how likely the show was going to be canceled, even less would have agreed to it. So, in the end, let's give David Canary & Ray MacDonnell credit for being smart enough to stay put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 On the one hand, I don't want to begrudge anyone who enjoyed the AMC of the early '90's. And yet - there always an "and yet" w/ me, isn't there, lol? - I knew even as those years were unfolding that something amiss was going on, that the AMC I had known and loved throughout much of the previous decade was eroding. That's why Felicia Minei Behr is never high on my list of favorite EP's. (All my favorite EP's - Robert Calhoun, Joe Stuart, Jorn Winther and Jackie Babbin - knew how to keep a show "fresh" w/o throwing away everything that made it wonderful in the first place.) When FMB crowed about bringing the show into the '90's @ AMC's first Emmy win for Best Drama Series, I just knew we were in for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm sorry, but I disagree with Khan. Scripted entertainment, serialized drama will always be with us, and it will be back. It can't not be. If it has to rebirth itself in more film or online, it will, but it will do alright. Everything is cyclical. People used to love The Gong Show too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Girl, don't be sorry, lol! I'm actually praying you're right. Otherwise, I've gotta figure out another line of work to break into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Llantano Incorporated Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Erik, I agree completely, but lets not go down that road. It leads us nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 In regards to Courtney and Reinholdt joining OLTL and boosting the ratings ,here are figures for that time frame. 74/75 AMC 9.3 (5th) OLTL 7.4 (11th) 75/76 AMC 8.1 (6th) OLTL 6.8 (11th) 76/77 AMC 8.2 ( 6th) OLTL 7.3 (8th) 77/78 AMC 8.4 (3rd) OLTL 7.2 (7th) 78/79 AMC 9.0 (1st) OLTL 8.0 (6th) So actually OLTL's ratings went down after they joined. Of course,there are many other factors to consider-lead-ins ,competition and change of time periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Look at those ratings numbers compared to what they are now. I have wondered why the soaps at the 1.7, 1.8 numbers could survive on the air. That is the ratings basement and quite honestly, it's no wonder they are being cancelled. Port Charles was at those low numbers when it was cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Don't know if this has been posted already, but... http://www.businessinsider.com/oprah-winfrey-own-ratings-rosie-odonnell-tina-fey-2011-4 Among the suggestions to fix OWN's downward spiral? Save ABC's soaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lust4Life76 Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Actually it kind of initiated a series of helpful posts, so I am glad I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marco Dane Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 hmm Wendy Williams didn't say a word yet about the cancellation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Not just them. Debbi and Darnell both commute and I'm pretty sure Minshew and family didn't give up their place either even though they got a place in LA. Then there are the ones who moved but basically used it just to get a foothold in the LA scene: MCE, Shannon Kane, Finn Wittrock. They moved because it was good for them, not the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 I guess at the end of the day, ABC is no different from any Corporation X in Anyplace, USA...lying, heartless, soulless. You can be an actor or a telemarketer, it seems, and the way you're treated by the higher ranks is the same. You're there to generate revenue for them, and when you dry up as a source of income, you no longer serve any purpose...you're considered a useless piece of [!@#$%^&*] and are discarded as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wingwalker Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Eobin Strasser: Butt smoocher award goes to JP Lavoisier, who says "Thank you" to Frons for "amazing talent and decision making". Extricate lips, use brain. http://twitter.com/#!/robinstrasser/status/59987456522588160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 There is absolutely no way that most of these actors would have rather be unemployed than move to LA and work steadily for two more years. The AMC actors got damn lucky, luckier than the crew that was fired and left behind in NY. Also, outside of the theatre, LA is where most of the acting work/auditions, etc. so they would have had to move there anyway if they intended to stay in the business. Someone mentioned the UK soaps, a totally different soap model. Those soaps are not solely dependent on ad revenue and most of them are 30 minutes per episode. EastEnders does not even have a Wednesday episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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