Members Lust4Life76 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 I had always wanted to see the episode of the lavish masque circa 1980 that took place at Cortlandt Manor and introduced the flagrant character of Daisy Cortlandt into Pine Valley society. I finally got to see it. And I had some questions about some of the characters... At the beginning of the party, the Martins are one of the first guests to arrive and Palmer seems rather charmed when introduced to Tara Brent. Now in the story I know Tara soon became a widow when word would reach her that her husband Philip had died and she would leave town shortly after.However, was Mary Lyn Blanks a hit with fans as Tara? Or had the character at that time run it's coarse despite the recasts? Would it have been possible that had Tara stayed she would have taken up with Palmer and become his new bride instead of Donna Tyler, maybe playing out into a Chuck and Tara reunion, or were Chuck and Donna more popular of a couple? Another character I felt were interesting to watch were Betsy Kennicott and Dr. Frank Grant...I noticed he had broken up with Nancy Grant at the time and escorted Betsy Kennicott to the ball. Would the writers have attempted an interacial storyline at the time, or were the characters just friends? Also, given Palmer was prone to falling for women half his age, Daisy was prone to finding love with young studs herself. When Daisy first meets Cliff, she flirts wildly with him. Was the character of Daisy originally pitched to come between Cliff and Nina? What was the backstory of Daisy and Myra, and how did Daisy meet Palmer? Were they all from Pigeon Hollow? Thanks! Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Are these online?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lust4Life76 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 No, the only thing that comes close on YOU TUBE is these flashbacks from the 20th Anniversary Special. I am sure I could get my copy dubbed and send you one if you like. Here, watch the clips of the ball starting at 1:22... Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Charles Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 1980 ball looked so fabulous. I would love to see it in its entirety. Phoebe as Cleopatra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lust4Life76 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Pine Charles, everyone of the leads seems to be enjoying themselves...Phoebe is indeed workin' the Cleopatra look, with her escort Langley as Marc Antony; Dr. Chuck comes as Rudolph Valentino, and Donna, a lady from the Restoration period; Dr. Joe and Ruth Martin come as George and Martha Washington, and Phoebe disses their costumes upon greeting them as Palmer's co-host for the event. Phoebe also goes on to criticize the social status of Tara Martin (who comes dressed in a mourning dress complete with veil from 1910) as well as have a few choice words for her ex-husband Dr. Charles Tyler, dressed as a chinese man, and the new love in his life, Mona Kane, dressed as Queen Elizabeth. Nina is the guest of honor, as the party is being thrown to celebrate her 19th birthday. Nina comes dressed as the Greek goddess Artemis, while the love of her life Dr. Cliff comes as a soldier. Brooke and Tom look cute as figures from the 1920's, especially Brooke as a flapper. Dr. Frank Grant goes all colonial to escort nurse Betsy Kennicott as Little Bo Peep. Mark Dalton and seductive Sybil Thorne go "Hawaiian". And Daisy Cortlandt, who has been hiding out at the Cortlandt mansion, unbenknownst to her estranged husband Palmer, is able to find a costume in an old wardrobe trunk in the attic and proceeds to crash the party as "the mysterious woman in red". I still would love to see the month long afair they had in Llanview, on ONE LIFE TO LIVE the following year. This was back in a time when costume parties were sensual and romantic, nothing like the tacky side shows they are today. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Charles Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 HA! Phoebe was such a drunk bitch... and I LOVES it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Erik, if you're interested, I scanned Ruth Warrick's Digest column on this event (with some photos) a few months ago, in the AMC history thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lust4Life76 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Carl I saw those, they were fantastic! I have to say, wathing this three day event totally blew Caleb Cooney's social gala out of the water. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jonathan Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 All My Children was very movie-like back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Even using movie scores It's really a shame that part of the reason they can't do these anymore is budget (I did like the masquerade Ball 5 or more years back where Janet bombed the place--at least it felt *busy* unlike ones now, but even it wasn't the same). Watching old clips like old funeral and wedding episodes, you really realize how anemic the shows look now and--as much as I think there are more important factors to a soap than budget, I hate to admit budget *does* make the soap watching experience quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 It sure does, but for me, the prospect of seeing the current characters on canvas all dressed up in gowns and tuxes or in masques or costumes for a big Friday episode gala isn't as exciting anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Sadly, you have a point. And the current canvas feels so small to me anyway--part of the fun of those old events was seeing characters you hadn't seen for a while, seeing them all interact, etc--nowadays the main cast seems to bump into each other at Krystal's daily anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jonathan Posted March 2, 2011 Members Share Posted March 2, 2011 Who needs a masquerade ball, when you've got a groovy dance marathon at a cosmetics company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 2, 2011 Members Share Posted March 2, 2011 CRY If that was the only way JHC knew how to cut budget then there truly is no hope-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane70 Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 There are alot of old amc episodes on youtube, I watched full episodes of amc in the early 80's one weekend and it was great. What the hell happened to amc???? Loved erica/brooke/adam/mark/phoebe/palmer/mike roy/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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