Maybe Jill barely knows Delia exists because Chloe was such a rude bitch to her while living under her roof? Not to mention the way Billy constantly belittles and bitches about his own mother behind her back.

If I were Jill, I don't know if I'd want them hanging around everytime I went to pick up that little girl. "Give me back my DOTTER, Jill. You're, like, totally holding her wrong."

Also, Billy hardly knows Delia exists himself. Only when ScarecrowToria started whining about her uterus and baybeeeeez was he all "Uhhhhhhhhh, Chlo? How about you give up Delia so that Victoria can raise her as her own. Whaddya say?!" *sh!t-eating grin*

Really only seeing the last three months, I can't even recall Billy having a convo with Jill. Or mentioning Jill as his mother. If I didn't know better, I'd think both his parents were dead.

The show sees Billy as a Newman. They hate the Abbott family and they Billy as superior to the Abbotts, which is the reason why they've thrown him in one story and pairing after another even as Billy Miller has tanked each of them. That's also why they had the scenes where Billy trashed John, even though Billy had grown up seeing Billy as a loving father.

I forgot, Nina finally gave Ronan's daddy a name..."Jimmy".

Did Heather have an orgasm when Ronan admitted chance is alive?

Yes. That was kind of interesting.

I forgot, Nina finally gave Ronan's daddy a name..."Jimmy".

I wonder if this is the new role they are trying to cast?

Reguarding this black market baby thing, why in the hell did Billy think that Victoria would want it? If I recall, she wanted a baby that was biologically theirs. So how is this insta-baby going to stop her whining? It's not theirs. Victoria will whine more when the baby gets taken away.

Victoria wants a baby that is "theirs", but I don't think she ever said it had to be theirs biologically. She was just talking to Nikki and Nick about the possibility of adoption, but wasn't sure Billy was OK with it. Of course she's going to be heart broken when the truth about this baby comes out, who wouldn't be? My only problem with this story is that Billy and Victoria are to world wise to go down this road. They could easily afford a surrogate, so it makes zero sense that Billy would buy a baby for 2 million dollars.

I wonder if this is the new role they are trying to cast?

Unless Ronan is lying, his father died of the same disease he has.

I must say that Y&R is getting good again. A lot of stuff is coming together. I wonder how Victor will get out of this mess. He needs to go to jail

Sharon sounded like such an idiot telling Victor that Adam felt bad about what happened to Ashley's baby. That was sick, especially coming out of Sharon's mouth. And honestly, when has Adam felt bad? He's just constantly playing the victim from what I can see. Both characters have become so unappealing for me. I don't understand the popularity or chemistry between Adam and Sharon.

Did anyone catch Eric Braeden on The Talk yesterday? He didn't say much about the current storylines about Y&R. Shemar Moore is going to be on The Talk on Monday.

Y&R sucks, oh for the good old days...

Sharon sounded like such an idiot telling Victor that Adam felt bad about what happened to Ashley's baby. That was sick, especially coming out of Sharon's mouth. And honestly, when has Adam felt bad? He's just constantly playing the victim from what I can see. Both characters have become so unappealing for me. I don't understand the popularity or chemistry between Adam and Sharon.

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Y&R sucks, oh for the good old days...

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While I generally don't find the show as heinous as ya'll....

I do find it so disappointing that they screwed Nina's storyline over. They've done absolutely NOTHING to develop anything with Nina/Ronan. There's no bonding. No character establishment. Now he's dying, but no one cares. Because he hasn't connected to anyone on the show. Sure, Nina is worried about him...But she hasn't even had a chance to bond with him? Heather has known him for five minutes? Who else is their to grieve? What emotional impact does this storyline have? It's another cheap plot device to bring Chance back to "Save the day"...F that.

Thanks for the part about Ronan's dad PJ. I missed that part. It's a shame that they killed off Nina's baby daddy. There could have been plenty of story to tell there.

I figure one reason they don't have Nina and Ronan never bonded was because they weren't sure if Branson was going to stick around and they would rather have the time they do have with him in story with Riegel than Cast. The other being they wanted him to be this tough guy loner.

Victoria wants a baby that is "theirs", but I don't think she ever said it had to be theirs biologically. She was just talking to Nikki and Nick about the possibility of adoption, but wasn't sure Billy was OK with it. Of course she's going to be heart broken when the truth about this baby comes out, who wouldn't be? My only problem with this story is that Billy and Victoria are to world wise to go down this road. They could easily afford a surrogate, so it makes zero sense that Billy would buy a baby for 2 million dollars.

She did want it to be biological. She told Billy that even though they had Delia and Reed, she wanted to have his baby and she thought that it would have the best of both of them. I understand from a writing standpoint why they aren't going for a surrogacy, because they went this route already with Lily and Cane. It would be nice to see them talk about other options though.

I know it's normal to be upset about losing a child she bonded with, but with Victoria I just don't care. To me it looks like that kid would be nothing more than an accessory to the pathetic Father Knows Best fantasy she has. It's not like with Ashley where I believe she really did love Faith and wanted her to keep the baby. We've already seen Victoria whine and moan for a kid only for her to ignore him after he was born. Plus, I'm just tired of Victoria getting unearned sympathy.

While I generally don't find the show as heinous as ya'll....

I do find it so disappointing that they screwed Nina's storyline over. They've done absolutely NOTHING to develop anything with Nina/Ronan. There's no bonding. No character establishment. Now he's dying, but no one cares. Because he hasn't connected to anyone on the show. Sure, Nina is worried about him...But she hasn't even had a chance to bond with him? Heather has known him for five minutes? Who else is their to grieve? What emotional impact does this storyline have? It's another cheap plot device to bring Chance back to "Save the day"...F that.

Ronan is too new/isolated for such a story and I said that from day one. He needed bondings first, especially with Nina. But instead they used the story to put him and Heather together and give ER something to do. I'm not seeing anything interesting about this insta pairing and the focus is just too much on Heather. I do think TC/JB did great in those Nina/Ronan scenes last week but that was needed prior to this story.

What emotional impact does this storyline have? None really but the same is true for all these stories imo. Just plot point after plot point written in a fast food drive-thru type style.

Edited January 16, 201114 yr by Taiah