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Exactly.

Adam/Sharon COULD be together & Nick/Sharon/Adam COULD be compelling but Maria completely ruined any good by the terrible pacing (Adam/Sharon) & extreme shallow agenda driven writing (N/S/A).

Diego & Cameron were totally different situations than her current relationship with Adam so there's really no comparison.

Sharon Case should stop pimping Adam/Sharon given the circumstances but since Muhney at least TRIES to work himself out of the hole Maria's written the character into it's understandable why she prefers working with him than being stuck with Morrow's useless ass.

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I've just never seen the chemistry between Adam and Sharon. They bore me just like she bored me with Jack. Both relationships feel driven by story not something organic I could see developing. Certainly not now with Adam and Sharon. I'd like her with someone new like Neil or Ronan or just anybody out of that Newman circle. She needs a big shift in the canvas. The only Newman I care for her with is Nick and they need time to re-group before it becomes like Victor and Nikki.

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Neil/Sharon should've happened 3 years ago (and would have if Maria cared about That Black Storyline).

Ronan would be a terrible match for her (Jeff Branson is terrible).

You're right that she definitely needs away from both The Newmans & Abbotts (for now) though.

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I don't think he won't tolerate a strong woman. I don't think he'll tolerate any woman who disagrees with him. As long as Sharon keeps putting out (and Lord knows that's a given), rubber stamping his agenda, clearly on his side hating who he hates standing up to the entire town and proclaiming his worthiness---Adam will be fine with her. Should she ever start doubting him, Sharon will be out on her ass as soon as he can transfer funds out of her accounts.

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I can understand why Case is wanting Shazam to happen. 5 years ago Phick was getting all the attention and Morrow got another wildly popular pairing besides Shick. Nick had the option of two women while Sharon was practically stuck with Nick until now.

Shazam may be hot, unfortunately it's coming at the expense of the Sharon character.

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No more than Nick/Giggly did.

Sharon doesn't exist as a character.

She has no job, no friends, no home & barely any interaction with her family.

Case's pimping of Shadam may be tasteless but it's not like Y&R's tried to use Sharon the character as anything other than a plot device the past few years.

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Watching Jack "undercover" as a surfer dude is hilarious. He may have matted down his trademark swoop, but Auntie Jack might as well be swanning around in a navy Brooks Brothers blazer and penny loafers.

Vance! Yes, I have a little crush on the leather-faced toker.

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It kind of surprises me how little interest there is in Y&R these days on this board. I know the diehards hate the show but I've been enjoying a lot of it recently. Maybe it's because I haven't been a real follower of this show as so many have for years. But the Cane story with TR pulled me back in and I'm actually engaged a good part of the show. And I'm not a Sharon and Adam fan but heck I like seeing Sharon have some backbone back and it has nothing to do with Adam I'm just happy Sharon/Nick seem to be done for a time. Loved them years ago but they just haven't worked at all in recent years and I'm not a Nick and Phyllis fan either.

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Adding Collin really perked my interest in Cane and the show again. I never quit watching but I was drifting off and missing episodes last year. Between the double doppelgangers and Tucker treating Jill like trash I just didn't feel like watching as much.

What I'm not liking is the rotation of stories in the show. It takes so long for Jill/Colin/Cane to come up again. Is it every five, seven, or what ,nine shows? I don't understand the formula yet, but there seems to be the main stories in which the top ten cast members (like Phyllis, Jack and Victor) appear in, they rotate every day or every other day and take up 50-75% of the show time. And then the B stories which rotate through the other 40+ cast members. Jill/Colin/Cane has to wait for Nina/Ronan/Heather, Chloe/Kevin/Jana, Ashley/Tucker, Katherine/Murphy/Ester etc., etc., etc.,. Waiting so long makes the story lose momentum. Sometimes I think these side stories are over and am surprised when they pop up again. I don't remember Y&R being like this a couple years ago.

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The problem is there's no interaction unless the people are in a relationship.

Heather & Rafe should totally be in Sharon/Adam's story, Chloe & Jana should be in Billy/Victoria's story, Jill & Diane should be in Ashley/Tucker's story, etc.

It's absolutely ridiculous that the same 15 or 16 people (Victor, Jack, Nick, Sharon, Adam, Victoria, Billy, Giggly Heffa, Abby, Daniel, Kevin, Heather, Nikki, Chloe, Jana Katherine) are on EVERY DAY leaving nothing for everyone else yet there's barely any progression (or non primary relationship interaction) in any of their stories.

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Is there a show that doesn't have this problem? 'Cause this is exactly how ATWT was only on a bigger scale. That said, I don't think the main stories going now (Sharon/Adam, Daisy, etc or Billy/Vicki) are compelling.

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