Members SFK Posted November 29, 2010 Members Share Posted November 29, 2010 David Vickers, OLTL Kendall, AMC Julia, AMC* Natalie, AMC Janet, AMC (more than once) *There's a fine line between softening/maturing and all-out personality changing, so this can be kind of hard. SO many young women went from mini-vixen to sympathetic young heroine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 The "redemption via rape" seemed to be an AMC calling card for years and years - Natalie, Gloria, Brooke, Julia. I think That Kit Fisher Person was the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heffer Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Oldies but Goodies: Rachel Cory-need I say more? Marco Dane-From evil town pimp-blackmailer-all around scum to sympathetic do-gooder (even though he regressed ever so slightly during his brief GH tenure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 An interesting twist would have been that one of the rape victims had turned into a hard-ass, take no prisoners bitch! The type that vows never to be anyone's victim! Has that ever been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 That was the inital approach they went wtih OLTL's Marty upon Todd raping her again in 2008 but unfortuntely I think the audience grew tired with her attitude and she ended up being more reckless and self destructive about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I think they were mostly focused on what would suit the stories for Todd and for John. I think they also didn't want to put too much focus on what happened between Todd and Marty, as that would make it less about what an emo stud Todd is and how any woman he touches is lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Charles Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I guess Annie Novak would fit into this...? She started off kinda sugary sweet and simple.... then transformed into the fierce bitch we know today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dion Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I suppose you could argue that Sami Brady kind of went that way after her rape by Alan in 1994, although rather than being a hard-ass she tended to pass herself off as a victim and scheme and manipulate behind the scenes. But it is notable that (aside from switching the paternity test for Belle and later kidnapping her which are two things Sami did of her own accord) she took a mainly passive role in Lucas's schemes to keep Carrie and Austin apart. But after the rape, she tried to set Alan up for another attack her (which went wrong but she did shoot him in the groin!) and then took a far more active and aggressive role in trying to keep Carrie and Austin apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yes. Unfortunately, moments after she vowed never to be a victim again, the big "C" on the Capwell Hotel sign struck her down and killed her. I'd nominate GUIDING LIGHT's Bert Bauer. In the beginning, she was a very unsympathetic woman, even if her motives were always understood by the audience. When she realized that her constant nagging was slowly destroying her and Bill's marriage, however, she began to change. Eventually, she became the wise and loving matriarch everyone mourned when she (and Charita) passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't know who that man is on OLTL, but it sure ain't any Clint Buchanan I know. Having goons who beat people up? Since when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Since Ron and Frank and everyone else at OLTL can't do the decent thing, realize RealClint is not the same without Clint Ritchie (nor the Buchanan family, in general, w/o him and Philip Carey), and just gradually phase him out of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 When I think of Clint, I think of this Please register in order to view this content Jerry Van Dorn may be very talented and a nice man, but he isn't Clint. And the writing...when I saw Clint's goons beating up that young guy I was disappointed they changed his character so. I don't watch OLTL much (I can't understand why anyone would watch a show that had no use for Tina but kept Marty), but I caught that and it seems hard to believe this is what Clint has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saving ATWT Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 +1 Perfect For once, we agree 100%--especially in regards to Kay (Y&R) and the manner in which Goutman ruined my ATWT fav Emily. Always had the feeling that Emily had to be weakened in order for Carly to take center stage...thoughts? Emily was the 'star' before the arrival of West but, slowly, KLH became just another supporting actress. Jill isn't Jill without Brenda Dixon. The character evolved, grew up, while played by Dixon; however, Walton totally changed the character. I like nuJill but things just ain't the same. Billy Miller is still the only area in which we disagree. I see the issues relating to the writing as opposed to the actor who reminds me of realJack. It is as if TPTB have no real plan for the character. I would add: Paul Ryan (ATWT) Barbara Ryan (ATWT) Lilly Walsh (ATWT) Most of the Cast (ATWT) Jack Abbot (Y&R) Taylor (B& Ashley (Y&R) Clint (OLTL) Luke (GH) Patty Williams (Y&R) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 Ugh - I would rather not mention Paul Ryan. Thinking about it makes me sad. I think that KMH just didn't really suit the material which best served Emily. To me this got in the way quite a bit in her first few years, but the character really went to hell around 1998, when they had her start going after Tom. She is a more neurotic actress, and the show ended up going way overboard with this. The time I thought they got her best was when she was with calm and cool men, like Jef Hamlin, and Hal. I'm sure someone at ATWT thought this was boring, but to me it was her only real connection to the character's potential. I also liked her with David Allen and was sorry the show junked that and for no apparent reason proceeded to completely eradicate David's character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 30, 2010 Members Share Posted November 30, 2010 In a way, though, that was one of Goutman's better decisions. Emily was not the same once Melanie Smith left the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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