57 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

I know Casey (and Nikki) were close friends to Brock. Did he and Casey ever have a romantic relationship ? Brock was another character that Bell chem-tested with several women, but nothing ever clicked. 

I think Peggy Brooks never really had a lasting relationship as well. 

Don’t think it ever got romantic with Casey and Brock…

Things were heating up with Brock and Julia when Beau K decided to quit in Sept 80. Don’t know if they were well-received by viewers…

Peggy was married to Jack Curtis and engaged to Steve Williams but neither was a healthy relationship. Her fling with Jack Abbott sounded more fun! In a more enlightened era, I think Peggy could come out as gay or bi

1 hour ago, SoapDope said:

I know Casey (and Nikki) were close friends to Brock. Did he and Casey ever have a romantic relationship ? Brock was another character that Bell chem-tested with several women, but nothing ever clicked. 

Brock dated Casey, but she seemed to always have issues with men, because of the abuse from her father. Most of their scenes seemed to be him convincing her to reach out to her father, which she wanted no part of.

1 hour ago, yrfan1983 said:

Don’t think it ever got romantic with Casey and Brock…

Things were heating up with Brock and Julia when Beau K decided to quit in Sept 80. Don’t know if they were well-received by viewers…

Peggy was married to Jack Curtis and engaged to Steve Williams but neither was a healthy relationship. Her fling with Jack Abbott sounded more fun! In a more enlightened era, I think Peggy could come out as gay or bi

I remember in one synopsis around 1981 stating Victor gave Peggy the bedroom eye. That sounded interesting. I wish Bell had explored that angle. 

I assume if Brock had stuck around he would have been the one Victor locked in the dungeon instead of Michael Scott. 

 

 

 

 

They also teased  Greg and Peggy for a minute,I think.

53 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

They also teased  Greg and Peggy for a minute,I think.

You are right. I think Peggy disappeared from the show without explanation by late 1981. Wings Hauser left and was replaced by Howard McGillin. I still can't believe Hauser was ever hired as Greg. He was blech !!! 

I could picture someone like Tom Tammi in the role of Greg. I always wondered why he was canned from ATWT. I guess they wanted to take Tom in a different direction with the casting of Justin Deas. 

 

1980 and 1981 just come across as a mess. So many storylines that were cut short or derailed because of the expansion, cast changes, and writer's strike.

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

1980 and 1981 just come across as a mess. So many storylines that were cut short or derailed because of the expansion, cast changes, and writer's strike.

Every time I tried to read Nikki’s history it sounds like she had at least 7-8 years of history crammed into 3 by the time she met Victor.

Same thing goes with the whole initial John/Jill/Jack triangle plus the whole Jill/Andy/Karen mess.

Paul stuck between April and Barbara Harding along with Barbara’s husband is one of the most bizarre twin stories I’ve ever read and seen on a soap before.

I’ve always been curious about Lance being engaged to the French woman, I think her name was Monique? I always wondered what did Vanessa think of this engagement LOL.

I also feel that the feud between Bell and Conboy was probably a major distraction as well for the show.

I once tried to ask my mother and the one soap watching grandmother about this era. My mother only remembered being a Snapper & Chris fan but during that time she watched AMC & GH more while Grandma thought the show got better with Newmans & Abbotts, but she was more into P&G soaps to begin, her watching Edge & SFT to their bitter ends.

 

 

29 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I’ve always been curious about Lance being engaged to the French woman, I think her name was Monique? I always wondered what did Vanessa think of this engagement LOL.

 

Simone. I think Vanessa mainly spent her time trying to stir up Simone against Lorie, but Simone was French and sophisticated and played it like she was cool with Lorie and Lance being friends.

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4 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Every time I tried to read Nikki’s history it sounds like she had at least 7-8 years of history crammed into 3 by the time she met Victor.

She really did burn through a lot of story quickly in 3 years. Within a couple months after debuting as Casey's bratty sister/Paul's girlfriend Bell had her kill her father, placed her into the Foster/Brooks orbit when she married Greg, then went into the modeling scam, cult, stalker, stripper etc...storylines one after another.

Bell seemed to overwork Melody as much as Jaime Lynn Bauer.

The News and Observer Raleigh NC March 9-March 16 1984

Serial plans to show real facelift By VERNON SCOTT United Press International HOLLYWOOD —

"The Young and the Restless" will be breaking new ground in the coming weeks when one of the serial's actresses undergoes a face lift both on and off camera .Jeanne Cooper a 10-year veteran of daytime TV will undergo cosmetic surgery in a hospital operating room Monday as the cameras grind away. Eight or 10 days later viewers will see Miss Cooper's character wealthy Kay Chancellor have the plastic surgery. The operation will be performed by Dr Harry A Glassman but his patients won't recognize him in his operating clothes cap and mask.

Anyhow the cameras will be focused on his hands and Miss Cooper's face. An actor has been hired to play Dr Glassman in pre-operation and post-operation shots The idea for including the surgery in the show was all Miss Cooper's. She wanted to have the operation but was unhappy that it would keep her out of the show for seven weeks Then she suggested that Kay have a face lift too which would allow Miss Cooper to continue in her role during recuperation and add yet another dimension to her character.

Miss Cooper did not reveal her age but it can be safely placed well over 50. Her face has the usual number of crows feet wrinkles and lines of middle years. She is a handsome woman with a twinkle in her eye "Since I influence so many people who watch the show I thought it would be a good idea to have Kay undergo the operation". she said. "I'm doing it the right way and I want other women who are thinking about cosmetic surgery to go about it as carefully as I have I checked out four surgeons before I settled for Dr Glassman who I think is the best.

"I'm having a total face lift in several stages. Actually. it will take a whole year. But the first operation is the one that will be integrated into the show next month".Regular viewers of "The Young and the Restless" won't detect a dramatic difference in Miss Cooper's appearance once the surgery is completed and the swelling and bruises diminish.The reason must be credited to the magic of the show's makeup specialists who apply lifts to either side of Miss Cooper's face. These are pulled up and back behind and under her hair to pull her facial skin taut eliminating wrinkles and lines and knocking a dozen years off her appearance.

After the decision was made to include Miss Cooper's surgery in the show her beauty secret with the lifts was revealed on the air to the astonishment and fascination of viewers. The response was heavy and immediate "The reaction of viewers was terrific" Miss Cooper said "When they saw me without the lifts they thought they were looking at Kay's older aunt". Women of all ages wrote and called to learn more about cosmetic surger. Miss Cooper will bear the cost of the operation not the producers or network. She explained that if anything goes wrong their insurance coverage would not be involved "This is really almost a documentary of cosmetic surgery" she said. "I hope it encourages women who need face lifts to go about them as thoughtfully as Kay has. "It's not just a matter of looking younger - Cosmetic surgery can make a woman feel better about herself" The News and Observer Raleigh NC March 9-March 16 1984 Page 37.

Dr. Harry Glassman was married for years to Victoria Principal. She had previously been engaged to Andy Gibb, but broke up over his drug use. She claims to have never gone under the knife.....🙄

Currently on June 1993. Was Bernadette initially supposed to be the foil for Cricket/Danny and they pivoted to Phyllis ? or was there a resolution with the Bernadette character  ?

Guys, some of you know this for sure... Are all of Young's early episodes still standing somewhere in a dusty room? They are not lost right? I am talking about Season 1, day 1... and onwards.

@MaximYes all of Y&R exists. The first 2 episodes were shown during the COVID reruns.

17 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

@MaximYes all of Y&R exists. The first 2 episodes were shown during the COVID reruns.

Thank you. That's great to hear. I am hopeful we'll see them all one day.