Fine episode, but I am over two TWD archetypes: The tortured pacifist and the brooding, rootless loner. The wordless opening with Enid was very well-done by Jennifer Lynch and the actress, but I just don't care about her schtick that I've seen before with more layered characters. If you want to be there, be there; she clearly has been in Alexandria for some time. Stop moping about and acting like you're above it all when psychos come calling to kill everyone and you're like, 'gotta go.' That's [!@#$%^&*] obnoxious and idiotic. Also, Morgan is a fine character and Lennie James an incredible actor, but no, I don't care about Morgan the pacifist grappling with the need to kill. I have seen that character at least four or five times on TWD. Move on.

 

BTW, I felt Ron's pain last week but this week he needs to stop [!@#$%^&*] around. Rick saved his life more than once, his dad beat the hell out of him and now Carl's saved him too. He better not give his poor mother [!@#$%^&*] about killing that lunatic either (Alexandra Breckinridge did a great job this week, BTW). I also liked seeing Carol's relationship with little Sam continue. I didn't realize the "A" on the stairs was put there by him, seeing Melissa McBride mentions in an interview.

 

I was glad to see several articles suggest I was not the only one that thought Enid might be a mole for the Wolves. That was my first thought when she showed up at Carl's very nonchalant, paired with the opening. I'm still not convinced she isn't. And I have little sympathy for her in that case. Carl can make Ron put her down.

 

This Forbes article makes it very clear - I also thought I heard Enid say, "that's how we..." and trail off. It's her, and she can die.

I don't trust Enid either, and I heard that sentence she started as well.

 

Carl, these two episodes were two of the best, cinematically, visually, and story-wise. The thousand walker march alone is amazing, and the Wolves attack was unexpected (even though you know something is coming), and Merritt Wever's debut as the new town doctor is pretty good, as well!

My DVR erased most of the Walking Dead and Talking Dead stuff I had on there from the last few weeks (since the FTWD finale, which I did manage to watch).

 

I feel like the universe is telling me something, and I'm just going to drop the show for a while, after barely getting through the back half of last season anyway.

It's interesting that when the ratings tally live and the next day that ratings are down to the point the value of AMC took a hit this week.   But when they do same day plus 3 more days on DVR ratings are up to 20 million biting at the heels of the top network shows.   I wonder if their demo pure audience being so young is just doing what the networks and cable companies dread:  continually finding other ways to watch.

It's interesting that when the ratings tally live and the next day that ratings are down to the point the value of AMC took a hit this week.   But when they do same day plus 3 more days on DVR ratings are up to 20 million biting at the heels of the top network shows.   I wonder if their demo pure audience being so young is just doing what the networks and cable companies dread:  continually finding other ways to watch.

I think that plus the show is getting older, meaning there are more episodes which gives new viewers less incentive to binge watch.

 

The last two episodes have been very action packed but the show is still badly written. The dialogue has absolutely no substance, the characters are inert, the plot (is there one?) is going nowhere. Carol is one of the top ten TV characters ever but even she is not enough to make this show good. 

Okay!

Okay!

 

I hate you.

It's interesting that when the ratings tally live and the next day that ratings are down to the point the value of AMC took a hit this week.   But when they do same day plus 3 more days on DVR ratings are up to 20 million biting at the heels of the top network shows.   I wonder if their demo pure audience being so young is just doing what the networks and cable companies dread:  continually finding other ways to watch.

I think that plus the show is getting older, meaning there are more episodes which gives new viewers less incentive to binge watch.

 

The last two episodes have been very action packed but the show is still badly written. The dialogue has absolutely no substance, the characters are inert, the plot (is there one?) is going nowhere. Carol is one of the top ten TV characters ever but even she is not enough to make this show good. 

I have to disagree.  I find the show excellent filled with some compelling characters and tension filled episodes.  It also manages to include character pieces fleshing out people but it is also very plot heavy keeping the story moving.   Just look at where they are this year vs this time last year when they had just escaped Terminus.   So much has happened since then.  I have no idea what network shows do weekly as far as story goes, but I find it hard to believe Scandal or NCIS or whatever pack as much into their year as TWD does into its.  The show is well directed, well acted and well written.

I understand the notion that the plot is going nowhere. A lot of things happen, but I never get the feeling there is an over arching story line here.  These people are just trying to survive day to day, so that seems fitting. Plus, I don't think they are in any hurry to wrap it up. I can see this show going for many more years because it isn't really dependent on any particular star. If there is a star, it's probably Rick, but how many people feel the show couldn't go on without him? Anyone who gets greedy and tries to hold the show hostage can be replaced. 

 

I can't agree about the characters being inert though. There's nothing farther from the truth from my perspective. We've seen all of these people grow and change and there have been a ton of truly great character moments. My favorite was probably Michonne holding a crying Judith for the first time. Trying to hold her away from her body and then finally bringing Judith closer to comfort her, as the tears run down Michonne's face. Beautiful acting and an entire backstory told without words.  

I can't believe they killed Glen.  He must be the first original cast member to go since Andrea.   The truth is he partially died due to his own naive faith in this guy who never deserved any, had never proved himself to be smart of reliable or faithful, and Glen should not have allowed this guy to lead him into this dead end.   I actually thought Michonne was about to get it too, but the show has never killed two people off in one episode.  Poor Glen, he was the first member of the group we met, but the last couple of years he sort of had no purpose.  It will be interesting to see what the show has in store for Maggie now.

Call me crazy, but I don't think he's dead. I think Nicholas sacrificed himself for Glen, who was covered in his gore and will live.  Maybe. I know that seems unrealistic, but I don't believe they would kill Glen without one of the other characters there to witness it. 

Call me crazy, but I don't think he's dead. I think Nicholas sacrificed himself for Glen, who was covered in his gore and will live.  Maybe. I know that seems unrealistic, but I don't believe they would kill Glen without one of the other characters there to witness it. 

 

I guess that is possible, much the way on Dynasty Alexis flipped Dex over and landed on him so he died and she didn't, but if that is the case that will be officially the most far fetched moment in Walking Dead History.

I agree it's totally far fetched, but I have to believe Glen did not get such a bad death.  If Rick, Carol, Daryl, Michonne, Maggie or Glen die, they deserve a glorious death. This was not that. Every major character that has died has had a dramatic death witnessed by others. 

Glen, RIP.  Of all the people I figured would go, he was not the one I expected...  Poor Maggie can't catch a break...

I only saw the last 10 minutes,  but if Glen is dead, Maggie's misery kicks into high gear.  So here for that  

Is there some reason our heroes no longer put someone out of their misery when a horde descends upon them? What's this business of just standing around gawking while someone gets pulled apart in front of you? 

 

If Glenn is dead (and I don't think he is) they better have some proof to give Maggie, otherwise we'll be back to last season where all she cared about was finding Glenn even to the point of never mentioning her sister.