Members dm. Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Yes. They deserve any bad thing coming their way. In a nutshell, Y&R deserves cancellation, IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 I disagree. I think Y&R doesn't deserve Goutman. All Maria will do anyway is completely ignore his advice and continue to try and blow the budget on ridiculous stunts they can't afford to effectively pull off. Although I'd love to see an actor try to renegotiate a deal and him just outright firing them(like Granny Cooper). I want him to fire her so fuckiing bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Can this show be called Y&R still? This is like a whole different... something, whatever it is. The decomposition is complete no matter how you take it: whether Goutman will come or whether it will be Renfroe or some other soap's director. The show should have evolved, but gradually, by investing in its talent, expanding it slowly, promoting from withing. Seasoned Y&R directors teaching younger people what Y&R was so that they can take the template in a somewhat new, better direction, appropriate for 2010 or whatever other year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 If Maria/Hogan/Hamner/Rauch had any intention of actually fixing Y&R I would agree but they're not. Instead they're content giving puff interviews to the soap press who would coddle them rather then take them to task for their horrible product. Jeanne is about the ONLY vet Maria won't bother with which is for the best since she will NOT go quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saving ATWT Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Agreed--yes and no: Goutman kept the show as well as cast looking great on a shoe string budget; however, he sometimes went too far in terms of wrecking classic sets in the name of progress not realizing the sentimental value felt by fans. I can just see his plans for Kay's living room which has been the same since 1973. I do feel that he gets way too involved in story and micro-manages. Goutman bought ATWT a few extra seasons if the rumor that PGP wanted to send the show to Jersey is true. Regardless, he never had a good feel for the show and would kill Y&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Y&R is already dead. Might as well trash that bitch up with a producer who can bring some cheap, behind-the-scenes controversy with him. I mean c'mon, Phyllis recast with Kim Rhodes?! Sharon recast with Terri Colombino?! Jill recast with Colleen Zenk?! Traci Abbott recast with Noelle Beck?! Nick recast with Austin Peck?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Julie Pinson IS Janice Mimmione. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Stuart Damon as her father? How about Van Hansis as nuHeather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Stuart Damon as John Abbott with plastic surgery. Van -- that would be great Jon Lindstrom as Jack Abbott Marnie Schlannberg or whatever her name is as Abby Carlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Epic Win. Peter Bergman better watch his back! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 And, as Nick Newman, the gorilla from the AW finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Marie Wilson as nuPhyllis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 LMAO Kathleen Widdoes as nuMary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saving ATWT Posted October 11, 2010 Members Share Posted October 11, 2010 Y&R is sick but not dead, yet. Yes, the show has serious problems; however, some stories are/have been well done and the ratings have held steady for a few years now while every other show totally tanked. My issue is, if ATWT was so great, why not just keep it on air instead of flooding Y&R with left overs? ATWT was a shell, and most of that was due to Goutman and his recasts. To save money, he really would recast Victor with Anthony Herra (sp?) LML wasn't perfect but it is time to bring her back. I can totally see MAB hiring Goutman. Hogan is the only thing that can stop it 'cause rumor was that he quit ATWT due to Goutman. Hogan, with all of his creative limits, is light years ahead of Gout. Would love Van as NuHeather--that is love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saving ATWT Posted October 11, 2010 Members Share Posted October 11, 2010 Forgot, he'll decide Jeanne Cooper is too old and use her like Eileen Fulton: 4 lines three times a year. When she quits, role will be recast with Liz Hubbard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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