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If I had the finances I'd move heaven and earth to get ATWT back on the air somehow on another network or maybe a spinoff of ATWT with most of the characters…vets of course and those who left that Id love to see back again. I'd bring back the 1985 opening and closing with the original classic globe spinning. I can't believe I stomached all the new openings and closings from late 93 and on…..the final years were tragic…with the cornfield opening and the last season with a simple small globe with no actual music….it was just terrible.

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I liked the CONCEPT of the cornfield opening since it brought back some of that middle-class, Midwestern feel that might have been lost in the days of big action/adventure and business-oriented stories.  But, yeah, the execution of that sequence was just dreadful to watch.

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Do you think that GL would've needed to go the UK route where they needed a permanent outdoor set along with a studio? That's what I thought was gonna happen with Peapack but I was sadly mistaken. To do that too, I think that GL would've needed to be out of P&G's hands and for CBS to invest in the show all the way, which I doubt would've happened. 

 

 

Even though I was glad ATWT was put out its misery (b/c of JP, CG, and P&G), it still had life to it. And EON would be a big hit nowadays as procedurals and murder mystery shows are HOT. 

 

I'd add Another World to that list, @Khan. I think the show just needed a few things retooled and it would've been fine. 

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I loved the Jelinda's theme opening ('93). I loved the toilet flush opening too. :P They just needed to switch the sound of the world rotating for something more pleasant. I hated the 02-06 opening though. That theme was garbage. I did love the cornfield opening though.  :ph34r: I was just pissed there was only one variation and we didn't get one with Lisa in it! 

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The flushing opening was ok ….I loved the graphics but they should have gone back to the 85 opening music with an update on it….without the flush…and by then there was no closing credits although if fans purchased the dvds you can see the closing to the flush opening….again great graphics but the theme music could have been done better.

 

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I used this theme on my blog that I was doing here awhile back--do you think this version would've been suitable?

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SN: This YT poster has done modern version of Y&R, GL, AW, and other soap themes too. Should check them out. 

That probably would've been better. I did thought like the 1993 opening and it showing all the seasons. I wonder how it would've mashed up with the 1986 theme, as I hated the 89 theme of ATWT. 

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It reminded me too much of Y&R. Funny how years earlier I wondered how ATWT would sound with Y&R music behind their graphics….I was so use to the fast pace music. I don't recall the reaction by fans to the new music. I am sure it was discussed in the mags by fans of the show.

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Nuh-uh. Maybe it felt better because  a) all of the sudden GL got more publicity about it's cancellation than it had in the previous 20 years combined,  or  b ) it had fallen so far that the gruel EW served up looked better than the [!@#$%^&*] on a shingle she'd delivered in Peapack, But I will never forgive the WTFery of Billy and Vanessa's wedding (after most of their reunion being served up off-screen, BTW, and I know that's a fact because they'd sucker me in with spoilers and then be on for a grand total of two FREAKIN minutes while some huge non-event in Otalia's relationship played out for a majority of the eppy) being usurped by Buzz and Lillian and two non-credited Y&R homage-inspired "guests". They freakin' killed Alan and dumped his ashes three feet off a beach.

 

I may hate, loathe and DESPISE the way Luke's dead lover ate up more than half of the last month of the show, and that Katie got more sympathy than the dead matriarch of the show---at her own funeral. Or that that bitch Janet befouled Carjack's honeymoon suite with the afterbirth of her bastard son. Still doesn't make GL's ending better.

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It felt better for me because of the returns and because even for all the phony earnestness and cheese and bizarre need for everyone to have a baby, I thought it represented the GL I'd loved. Little scenes like Bill and Fletcher saying they missed Ben (who hadn't been mentioned in years). ATWT, in comparison, had a cheap-looking spinning globe.

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Ive seen that closing and love it…that should have been the 2001 ending graphics with just a few nip and tucks touch ups…the music is much better than the flush but it still sounds too generic…so it would need some tuning…sounds like a version I have from a cassette I bought back in the day of soap themes.

 

 

And the ONE thing I missed the most from the rest of the closings and openings was the first few seconds of the spinning sound of the globe..that was classic…One LIfe to Live tried copying it with their opening…..

It was also on the oltl closing credits ….by then ATWT was almost done with on and on theme…. 

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I love you dearly b/c of our love for CarJack and ATWT, but GL was better in it's final week than ATWT. :ph34r:

 

I didn't care for Buzz and Lillian's insta-wedding with Billy and Vanessa but it was a nod to history as Lillian begged Maureen for forgiveness--something we never saw her do before sharing a wedding with Maureen's best friend. That was what was great about GL--they acknowledged and made nods to history. I do agree that Jeanne Cooper and Christian LeBlanc popping up was stupid as hell; however, I knew Jeanne wanted to be on GL's finale badly b/c she's always expressed (as a fan) if she wasn't on Y&R, she would've wanted to be on GL.

 

ATWT didn't. Besides CarJack's wedding and the final scene with Bob/Kim, the final week was a dud thanks to Goutman. 

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What was the "Corn field," opening?? Was that the boring and depressing one with the geese flying that made the show look so dull and out of date? I LOVED the toliet flushing one...I never thought of it as that until someone brought it up here. I think (besides the flushing noise) the theme was kind of classy and majestic like the old dame of the show should be.

But I have to give Bunim and Company credit that they did create the best theme with the "World Keeps Turning" one. They should have just updated that one..but I still think they should have kept JFP's GL opening and just tweaked it once in a while.

And P.J. they did not dump Alan's ashes off a beach ...it was a bad drainage ditch then that they used...earlier they had the Lewis boys fishing out of the damn thing! Who would have eaten the fish??? They also had that Chippendale's dancer looking guy who they unaccountedly hooked up with Mel, fighting someone in that ditch, so we could have poor Mel hose the mud off so that off course, we could get a shirtless wet shot of him.  That is the kind of ditch that as kids we would play around and try to drown barbies and float toy boats and if our one of our Mom's found out she would yell, "Get away from there you know its full of people's CRAP!!!" (which wasn't true but I could never watch a scene with that damn ditch without thinking someone should have yelled that at the characters.

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I thought it was Klein too. Oh well.

 

I totally forgot that Monti Sharp was on ATWT for a stint too. I thought his story with Camille/Ben was absurd. I swear they used to give Ben (and those surrounding him) some of the most absurd stories minus the church fire and later the Marshall Travers story. 

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              CATHERINE COX        Also Credited as Catherine Carpenter; Catherine Carpenter Cox                      12/13/1950 - Present THE EDGE OF NIGHT     Billie Schumann   1984 THE GUIDING LIGHT     Unknown Role     Unknown Year LOVING         Unknown Role     Unknown Year AS THE WORLD TURNS     Phyllis Leonard    Unknown Year ANOTHER WORLD     Nurse Margaret     6/29/1990 and STARS IN THE HOUSE     Self    2021 Appeared in two episodes of LAW AND ORDER  (2002; 2006) and an episode of THE COSBY SHOW (1990). PILOTS/PROPOSALS FOUR IN LOVE      Pam        1980  CBS     movies BUNKO      Cat     2007 TENDERNESS      Bowling Waitress     2009 BROADWAY MUSIC IS     12/20/1976 - 12/26/1976        Viola   **** DRAMA DESK AWARD NOMINEE -- OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL WHOOPEE!      2/14/1979 - 8/12/1979    Harriet Underwood OKLAHOMA!   12/13/1979 - 8/24/1980    Replacement -- Ado Annie Carnes   July 1980 - ???? 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    • Oh wow. After reading your post, I realized that they had "Carl Ivati" in the script AGAIN yesterday June 6.    Eva said she was reading his latest, and Tomas said "Work's been so busy, I haven't had time to get into his new series". Then Eva proceeds to tell him that "the first book is called 'Mercy and Goodness' and it's all about how the couple first met and how they got separated".   She goes on and on about how great it is. And she says she has the book in her hotel room if he wants to borrow it. She says it has twists and turns. And meanwhile Kat is snooping in Eva's room to look for the helmet and gloves, and finds the book and dismisses it as "basic". I saw that whole scene -- but I wasn't paying attention to the name of the author.  And when Tomas said the name, I heard it in his accent so I didn't hear "carlivati".  II was mainly trying to see if the acting had improved with the actor playing Tomas, and I think he has improved somewhat.   I only see it when typed out. So they had several scenes yesterday about a "Carl Ivati" book?  Barf! Well at least Kat had the good sense to dismiss it as "basic". Ron Carlivati wrote the breakdown yesterday!   Featuring himself in it! Addressing to the collective "you" whoever you may be: Some of you, months ago, said Oh Ron is only doing breakdowns.  The story comes from MVJ, so he won't influence things, you said. May 27 started it, with Christopher Dunn breakdown and Lynn Martin script. But they didn't need to continue it June 6 with Carlivati breakdown and Jazmen Darnell Brown script.
    • I was completely lost. But it is wonderful that it exists. I didn't really know Robert Mandan had done soaps...well, besides SOAP.
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