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Wasn't Lucy Deakins' Lily involved with Dusty? If so, then maybe Marland might have continued on that course.

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Yes, she was (there's an episode on Youtube where they sneak out to a club). I don't know if Marland was that interested in Dusty though.

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Watching this and when Ambrose, the most stable character on the show, revealed that he'd been in therapy for seven years, I thought of Mitch and laughed. You really weren't kidding about the therapy overload on the show at this point.

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I liked Pam, too. Robin Morse was a good actress and a very non-soapy type. She and Neil Maffin who played Beau were quite unusual. I recall being disappointed when Pam graduated nursing school and left Oakdale. I would have much preferred her and Andy instead of Courtney, whose "perkiness" worked my last nerve.

Neil Maffin was a hunk. I guess you were cheering when Hans trapped Courtney in that building and the ceiling plaster fell all over her face and body...lol

I never liked Courtney either. She seemed fake.

I never knew why Marland gave up on Beau so quickly. He wasn't a great actor but he was a little different for ATWT at that time, as he wasn't just another Snyder, he wasn't someone's long lost relative, etc.

His exit story, leaving town with Nella Franklin, seemed so random and rushed. I can't remember if they were a couple.

Was Victoria Rowell playing her at the time or was it another actress??

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Another actress (Kasi Lemmons...or she might have been on AW by that point). I've never seen any of Rowell's ATWT appearances.

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True.

It feels like Forsythe didn't age all that much from the early 60s to the early 80s.

I feel like there was such untapped potential with Ellen and David. It's ironic that even as the Dobsons had little interest in much of ATWT's history (or P&G didn't), they did care about Ellen and David.

I don't recall which writers split David and Ellen (when he had amnesia and got involved with Linda Dano's Cynthia), but it was really the only interesting--and, sadly, short-lived--storyline for them in all of the 80's. Ellen briefly had her single life, but she and David reconciled pretty wuickly, IIRC. Cynthia was written out (although her fascinating daughter Karen stuck around). Although I liked David and Ellen, this was the only time I was INTERESTED in Them.

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I Googled Gregg Marx to see what he was up to and found this great interview. He talks a bit about why he left ATWT, Bill Bell offering him a role on Y&R, his friendship with HBS, coming out as a gay man, and his career in cabaret. (The site is flagged as NSFW, but I didn't notice anything racy on the mobile site.) He still looks amazing.

http://marcharshbarger.blogspot.com/2013/02/deeper-dish-with-gregg-marx.html?m=1&zx=e2640becc189fcf1

Great interview!! I remember him being interviewed a few years ago and it was just hinted during the interview...well if you read between the lines that Gregg was gay. Now if only I could meet him now...lol...Glad he enjoyed his time on ATWT. I wish he would have stayed till the show's run. As much as I liked Scott Holmes (i know a LOT didn't) I would have preferred Gregg in the role. It's interesting that most of the Toms had chest hair...Gregg sure is one sexy gay man but his taste in men is awful.....lol

I wish he would return to daytime tv or primetime tv.

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I loved this promo and storyline. As for CZP...if she and BH didnt get along well she sure is a hell of an actress because she was cheering her ass off when he won an Emmy.

Oh wow, now I am waiting on Mark Collier LOL!

LOL..the guy is my age and no woman in sight...hmmmm...I dont think you'll be waiting too long...lol

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I don't recall which writers split David and Ellen (when he had amnesia and got involved with Linda Dano's Cynthia), but it was really the only interesting--and, sadly, short-lived--storyline for them in all of the 80's. Ellen briefly had her single life, but she and David reconciled pretty wuickly, IIRC. Cynthia was written out (although her fascinating daughter Karen stuck around). Although I liked David and Ellen, this was the only time I was INTERESTED in Them.

While David and Ellen were split (which was about a year), didn't she move into a singles community and date a handsome doctor?

I think the split started when Tom King was writer, and the Dobson's kept them separated for several months before they reunited in a Christmas 1982 wedding.

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You can see why fans were so upset when Margo had that miscarriage.

If anyone needs a laugh go watch the part in the 1991 episode where Larry tells Frannie he will now love her all the time. He looks like such a psycho.

It's a good episode. The best part is Lucinda, juggling therapists, meddling in the Jessica/Duncan relationship, obsessing over Holden/Lily, etc.

The Jessica/Duncan relationship seriously was a risk for the show. It's to their credit that they pulled it off.

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You can see why fans were so upset when Margo had that miscarriage.

If anyone needs a laugh go watch the part in the 1991 episode where Larry tells Frannie he will now love her all the time. He looks like such a psycho.

It's a good episode. The best part is Lucinda, juggling therapists, meddling in the Jessica/Duncan relationship, obsessing over Holden/Lily, etc.

The Jessica/Duncan relationship seriously was a risk for the show. It's to their credit that they pulled it off.

Duncan was less annoying with Jessica. He and Shannon were like fingernails on a chalkboard...hated the damn castle too!

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I loved this promo and storyline. As for CZP...if she and BH didnt get along well she sure is a hell of an actress because she was cheering her ass off when he won an Emmy.

Well, I think they started out not getting along too well. I think they'd both mellowed by 2003(?) when Ben won the emmy.

The only thing I've really ever read about Jennifer that suggests to me she wasn't some woe-is-me character is that she wanted to return to nursing after giving birth to Frannie, while Bob wanted her to stay home.

I wonder if the youth movement watered down female characters. You can't write an interesting 30-ish character mooning over the first stable boy she meets, kwim?

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I think the networks also began to believe more and more that viewers, especially the young viewers they coveted, were idiots, and the writing had to be dumbed down. So Kim just became Nick's stricken wife/Betsy's stricken mother, no identity of her own.

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