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Dallas 2.0: Discussion Thread

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I don't think I was suggesting the original cast was not talented but as we all know talent only carries you so far. Dallas was successful because It was the right mixture of people and the right time and place for it to work. I will say I much preferred the earlier years when JR was not the larger than life character he became and took over the show with. He lost some of his root ability for me when it became all about him. And of course he's the highlight of the current show along with Duffy. Everyone else on the show is so blah and ordinary for the most part.

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Linda Gray is not happy being having her scenes cut lol.

Freddie in San Ġwann asks

How would you like to see Sue Ellen develop, do you have any input?

Linda Gray - First of all I don't want her cut out anymore. I want her in every episode, and then I can do something. They don't seem to be writing for Sue Ellen, I'm like "Ok come on guys, you are writing for the guys a lot, you are writing for everybody else but you're not writing for Sue Ellen, so I want them to get off the dime and write for her. You can't do anything if there is no dialogue, what can you do?"

New Interview: http://www.ultimatedallas.com/asklindagray/

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Linda Gray is not happy being having her scenes cut lol.

New Interview: http://www.ultimated...m/asklindagray/

I know she mentioned the BBQ at Southfork and how cold it was and I dont think she was even shown. Her scenes were cut out. I'd wish she would be just as pissed about how awful Metcalf is as Christopher.

Who knows if she will sign up for Season 2.

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Joan Collins eventually was a disaster, but she started off well. And I'm sorry, but no way in hell does this cast compare to the original. Barbara Bel Geddes & Jim Davis were perfect as the heads of the family. Larry Hagman, Joan Van Ark and Ted Shackelford all started off brilliant and only got better. The only green actors were Linda Gray, Patrick Duffy, Victoria Principal and Charlene Tilton. Out of them, Linda Gray had little screentime at first so she had time to improve and she became brilliant. Victoria Principal had strong writing out of the gate and tons of charisma. Patrick Duffy did well enough as Bobby, which didn't require much heavy lifting. The only failure was Charlene, but that was only apparent at time went on and they tried to keep her around.

Then you need to tell me if Marta even rates next to Katherine Wentworth, Kristen Shepard, Holly Harwood or Afton Cooper. The only supporting characters that are well cast and written are Tommy and Ann's ex-husband.

Patrick starred in The Man from Atlantis the season before he was cast as Bobby, so he definitely isn't green.

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I know she mentioned the BBQ at Southfork and how cold it was and I dont think she was even shown. Her scenes were cut out. I'd wish she would be just as pissed about how awful Metcalf is as Christopher.

Who knows if she will sign up for Season 2.

If she was pissed about lousy acting on this show she'd never show up on the set at all.

I think they just used the original actors as bait to try to get people to watch this. Any show that casts longtime coma patients like Brenda Strong and Jordana Brewster has no interest in compelling women.

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Quick, someone reboot Models Inc for Linda!

LOL....tongue.png That was one of the worst shows in history. I just hated it and only watched because of Linda.

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I hope they don't view the early renewal as a sign the show doesn't need work. It actually needs HUGE work.

Same!

Lucy and Ray are presented like a couple (and wasted) when they're RELATED.

You know, I had to go back and re-read that sentence? For a minute there, I thought you were saying Lucy and Ray were being presented as if they were "wasted." Don't ask me why, lol.

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I think [Linda Gray] had a ton of charisma.

Same goes for Jim Davis, Patrick Duffy, Victoria Principal and Charlene Tilton. In fact, aside from Barbara Bel Geddes and Larry Hagman (and even Hagman is debatable), none of DALLAS' most prominent actors were actually good. Nevertheless, each of them had some almost undefinable quality that made you sit up and take notice. But these new actors? They might as well be on "CSI: NY" or "Criminal Minds." That's how interchangeable and disposable they are.

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I don't recall any Emmy nominations, not that that always means anything.

Actually, Barbara Bel Geddes won an Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama Series in 1980, a rarity among actors working in primetime soaps.

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Barbara Bell Geddes won an Emmy in 1980 for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drams Series, the only cast member to win one.

Oops. Didn't know you had answered Jane Austen's question already. My bad. :)

But primetime soaps were always considered the lowest of the low in primetime television by both critics and the academy. It was always shows like Hill Street Blues, Cagney & Lacey, St. Elsewhere, LA Law, and thirtysomething winning Emmy's.

And if "Hill Street Blues," "L.A. Law," "St. Elsewhere," and "Thirtysomething" weren't all soap operas...!

And of course St. Elsewhere, which would never be called a soap then (probably not now either) but had some of the purest soap melodrama of anything anywhere.

To this day, the serial rapist storyline practically haunts me in its sheer, utter soapiness.

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Patrick starred in The Man from Atlantis the season before he was cast as Bobby, so he definitely isn't green.

Granted, I never watched "Man from Atlantis." From what I have heard about it, though, it sounds to me as if Duffy never had to stretch his (acting) muscles on that one.

Rizolli and Isles is my mother's favorite show. I saw Colin Egglesfield on their he's reoccuring as Rizolli's brother.

God help me for saying this, but even Colin Egglesfield would have made a better Christopher than Jesse Metcalfe. He has more presence on-screen and, unlike Metcalfe, he's actually grown as an actor.

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Larry Hagman is a good actor. Like another poster said. His two biggest roles Tony Nelson and JR Ewing were so damn different. I saw I Dream of Jeannie reruns before I saw Dallas reruns and it was so wierd seeing how different he was on Dallas.

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Granted, I never watched "Man from Atlantis." From what I have heard about it, though, it sounds to me as if Duffy never had to stretch his (acting) muscles on that one.

God help me for saying this, but even Colin Egglesfield would have made a better Christopher than Jesse Metcalfe. He has more presence on-screen and, unlike Metcalfe, he's actually grown as an actor.

At first it was said that he was green. Now he didn't have to stretch his acting chops. Let me suggest something...they have episodes of that show on YT. I'm saying that you will like it, hell you may even hate worse after you see it. But i know one thing...because I watched TMFA I watched Dallas as well. At least look at one episode before you make your final decision on how he was as an actor back in the late '70s.

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