I think Eli discussing his wives today was supposed to be the "truth," that Mrs. Pattison's death wasn't his fault and that he killed the recent ones to keep Blair in his life. It's the show's UNGODLY FEEBLE attempt to not make Eli a complete cartoon villain, even though it's far too late. I hope Eli actually dies from the shooting and doesn't resurface with Tea in a few months.

I'm going to disagree with some of this. People have killed for way less in real life. I don't think Eli was ever supposed to stay around for long. IMO, I don't think Eli is any worse than any other villain that's been of other shows as of late. None of the shows know how to really write a good villain these days.

Edited September 1, 201015 yr by MontyB

But RC said he always planned this path for Eli.

That's total B.S. coming from RC. If this was the original plan, then he needs to go back whatever school of writing he came from, and learn how to 1) lay hints and 2) try not make his storylines so disjointed, where it looks like Eli made a complete 360 from the man he was 9 months ago. No one, not one single viewer, could tell this was going to happen when Eli and Blair first hooked up, let alone when Eli first arrived in town.

What a bizarre backwards-assed way to try and appease the audience who supported the pairing prior to Eli turning into Joseph Cotten's lady-killer from Hitchcock's Shadow of a Doubt. My attitude is that if a soap is (yet again) going to go full retard, they should just go big. Don't try to wax my ass and tell me they respected the audience's support for Blair and Eli.

Hilarious, but incredibly true.

Edited September 1, 201015 yr by MichaelGL

Damn my DVR ABC soap lineup is jacked because of that ass at the Discovery Building

I'm going to disagree with some of this. People have killed for way less in real life. I don't think Eli was ever supposed to stay around for long. IMO, I don't think Eli is any worse than any other villain that's been of other shows as of late. None of the shows know how to really write a good villain these days.

It would be nice to see at least some thought behind the plot, instead of the convenient 'Eli did EVERYTHING bad that happened in the last six months...whether it made sense or not'. It would be really refreshing to see a laid out whodunit that actually made sense...that hasn't happened in YEARS.

Blair and Eli's showdown was as rushed, poorly scripted and acted as most climatic moments lately on this soap. Look no further than the Tea is dead reveals. They packed her bags up and rushed back to RC's next plot point.

I respectfully disagree that KDP and MW gave it any dignity. I winced watching that dreadful mess and the only real saving grace was both actors looked as pained as I did by their material. I give KDP a nice nod for looking at camera and all but saying look I know it's bad dialogue, a really sucking ending but bear with me. Then again I feel that way a lot watching OLTL lately.

ITA the show likes KDP a lot. I disagree on comparing her to NLG who can acts circles around her AND most of the rest of daytime's females. ABC prizes cleavage over talent all too often.

As for what to do with Blair? I believe a Dorian/Joey type romance would be solid gold hit for her. KDP sticking her stiletto in Ford's face and twisting into a pretzel was delightfully entertaining. Let KDP play a sexual predator instead of her perpetual victimhood which has drained her character of so much life and interest.

I actually think Nate looks out of place. James and Ford look ALOT alike. I thought they were the same person when I first saw James. Nate looks nothing like them. I bet Inez is lying and that she is a ho bc theres no way that all 3 are full siblings. Her husband had good reason to throw her trifling ass out on the street. Just looking at the boy and you can tell she was playing with someone else's hotdog

See I disagree, I expect daddy Ford to storm into Llanview with a vengeance and abuse ALL the Fords including Inez. Then TIIC will say see those poor Fords, doesn't your heart go out to them. Gag.

I do think James and Bobby were cast to look a like and Nate favors his mom's looks more.

Blair and Eli's showdown was as rushed, poorly scripted and acted as most climatic moments lately on this soap. Look no further than the Tea is dead reveals. They packed her bags up and rushed back to RC's next plot point.

I respectfully disagree that KDP and MW gave it any dignity. I winced watching that dreadful mess and the only real saving grace was both actors looked as pained as I did by their material. I give KDP a nice nod for looking at camera and all but saying look I know it's bad dialogue, a really sucking ending but bear with me. Then again I feel that way a lot watching OLTL lately.

ITA the show likes KDP a lot. I disagree on comparing her to NLG who can acts circles around her AND most of the rest of daytime's females. ABC prizes cleavage over talent all too often.

As for what to do with Blair? I believe a Dorian/Joey type romance would be solid gold hit for her. KDP sticking her stiletto in Ford's face and twisting into a pretzel was delightfully entertaining. Let KDP play a sexual predator instead of her perpetual victimhood which has drained her character of so much life and interest.

I guess we didn't see the same show because I really disagree. As far as NLG acting rings around KDP, I don't agree with that either. No way

Just what this site needs- another OLTL hater.

Why is NLG being mentioned?

Glad to see BB dressed in a black shirt. It's slimming, he needs it.

Ouch. But when he was in the suit the other day, his head did kinda look like a basketball being choked.

Yea, he's definitely a little heftier all over now. His chest is starting to rival some of the ladies on the show.

I guess we didn't see the same show because I really disagree. As far as NLG acting rings around KDP, I don't agree with that either. No way

We just got different povs, that's all. I thought that was welcomed here. ;-)

Just what this site needs- another OLTL hater.

Why is NLG being mentioned?

I badly want to enjoy OLTL again, I really do. I loved last summer and fall's writing and keep wondering what the heck happened!

As for NLG, it's just comparing actresses from other soaps. Pretty common.

That's total B.S. coming from RC. If this was the original plan, then he needs to go back whatever school of writing he came from, and learn how to 1) lay hints and 2) try not make his storylines so disjointed, where it looks like Eli made a complete 360 from the man he was 9 months ago. No one, not one single viewer, could tell this was going to happen when Eli and Blair first hooked up, let alone when Eli first arrived in town.

Hilarious, but incredibly true.

I didn't guess Eli was a serial killer but I there were two scenes I saw signs he be dangerous when crossed. He got pretty menacing with Tea in a couple of early on scenes. I think the plan to expose him as baddy got pushed back for some reason, because his fixation on Tea felt stalkerish.

It really is though, James in particular. But they all look like they take after Mama and have sat on Pinocchio's face shouting, "Lie! Lie!"

I'm not even sure I quite get it but I'm still shocked Doyou just mean they look particularly, well gay? And I agree with Carl--the more OLTL does these campy reasons to have the guys waxed and shirtless, the less, oddly, I find them attractive. And trust me, it's not because I don't like looking at shirtless guys.

For the record I think, face wise, James and Ford do look a lot a like--Nate not much at all. I was ok handling James out of all of them, till they made him obnoxious endlessly texting Starr on that one awful episode. Yeah, that's attractive...

I think Eli discussing his wives today was supposed to be the "truth," that Mrs. Pattison's death wasn't his fault and that he killed the recent ones to keep Blair in his life. It's the show's UNGODLY FEEBLE attempt to not make Eli a complete cartoon villain, even though it's far too late. I hope Eli actually dies from the shooting and doesn't resurface with Tea in a few months.

What I still don't get--while some of it is feeble indeed (hoping to distract John by pushing Marty), how did Rodney at the insane asylum know Eli again, in the first place?? And how did Eli find out Melinda saw a pic of him and showed it to Rodney? Even for a soap these are huge, bizarre coincidences. It's not clever, Ron Carlivati, it's just weak--it makes Powell's motivation look Agatha Christie brilliant.

Edited September 2, 201015 yr by EricMontreal22