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Y&R Discussion for week of July 5th

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If Scotty were to ever come, I wouldn't mind Chad Brannon in the role.

CB would be awesome.

Too bad Maria would waste him in her desperate attempts to make Graziadei & Rikaart pop.

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2: Jill to Nikki... "What do you suggest I do? Shake my tassels and MARRY in?" Line of the YEAR! :lol:

Such a wonderful line! I was just coming to post about it. It's one of those lines you just hope someone will use and there it is. Nikki is so condescending to so many others (though I don't mind it when she socks it to Phyllis) - you just wonder why they all take it from her.

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I know, I wish she had someone really good to balance her out with.

That's where Adrienne Leon would come into play, but alas, that ship has sailed and sunk right into the bottom of the lake.

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That's where Adrienne Leon would come into play, but alas, that ship has sailed and sunk right into the bottom of the lake.

Or good actresses playing Mac and/or Lily would do the trick too.

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She's morphing into Ivana Chubbuck

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Wait. I don't hear Jill going, "Ho'ya liik tat JOSH-WAH!?" There's still time to save her.
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Funny you should mention this, as Dickson told a very good friend of mine just 2 days ago that she feels the entire writing staff is smoking pot (Referring to the last 3 weeks).

I don't agree with her diva antics or the way she saw her character, but Brenda Dickson would have drove Maria's ass crazy until they were forced to recast with FOM Mel Harris. Jess needs the job. Glad she's here. Not happy with the way her character is getting dicked over.
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God, this show is rotting away its legacy characters. Shameful.

This Jill sh!t is representative is what they think of the characters people care about. They beat these character down so bad that if they have to recast or kill them off, no one would care anymore.

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I wish they would give Abby something, anything to do other than degrade herself for fame, laughs, and cheap thrills. I laughed at Abby in the pool, but not because I thought it was really funny. I just laughed at the utter desperation of the character and this show. Thr Paris Hilton sh!t is so beneath her and beneath this show.

Why was Jill drinking a beer?! Not that I have anything against beer, I drink Budweiser just like every other self-respecting cheapass that can't afford a good glass of scotch at the club. But Jill drinking a beer just seemed so out-of-character and too blue collar for her. She has always strived for better. Why the hell would she drink a beer? And the clothes they pick for Jess are so unflattering and not the right color at all. She looked like the Kool-Aid Guy's mom. That's not right. Jess/Jill and her fans deserve better.

Oh great...it's not a normal day in Genoa City if Adam isn't gaslighting anyone, right? :rolleyes: Zzzzzzzzz.

I swear, it was like watching the worst of NBC Daytime in the 1990's. It was like everything bad about Sunset Beach mixed with Passions. Leah Laiman and Jim Reilly's estate should sue for plagiarism.

Downright embarrassing.

Also, Jill FENMORE!?! WTF! Jill fights for money and control, not a name. It just seemed so pathetic and desperate. It's like another way to degrade the Jill character by making her so petty and childish. The real Jill wouldn't give a f*ck about this plot twist.

I love Marcy Rylan - loved her on GL... can't take her as Abby and it has nothing to do with the SORASing fiasco. It's the fact that the writers seem to really want 'Lizzy Spaulding' and not Abby Carlton/Newman.

I was just watching DAYS and EGADS! They're stuck in the 70s! The 90s is a bit of an improvement, but I get your point and agree with it.

The Jill Fenmore thing? Deeply bothersome. The writers should never have goofed around with Jill's paternity. Never. If there was a long term plan, I don't think any of them knew what it was. I'm looking around to see who's kid she'll become next. :blink: Poor Mrs. Foster (and isn't that name ironic now)? She's just the woman who raised Jill, keeping her from her 'real' family.

I can't say it any better than this:

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE.

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Abby is a caricature, not an actual character. This Paris Hilton wannabe crap was all over the place ... in 2005. No one cares anymore, and as usual, they're late to the party.

There's really nothing to this character, she's such a fame obsessed airhead, this type of character belongs on B&B, not Y&R.

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I don't agree with her diva antics or the way she saw her character, but Brenda Dickson would have drove Maria's ass crazy until they were forced to recast with FOM Mel Harris. Jess needs the job. Glad she's here. Not happy with the way her character is getting dicked over.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble here... and don't get me wrong, I LOVE Jess and the way she acts, but she DOES hold a bit of resposbility for Jill seeming as pathetic and desperate as she is right now. I hold the writing at fault for about 80 percent of it, especially with lines like "all my life I never felt like I fit in"... but Jess COULD play AGAINST the writing and not make Jill appear to be so pathetic by having her raw emotions so close to the surface. Like it or not... that hard, bitchy shell that Dickson would come out with would have done alot to take the edge off this SL, and keep Jill more true to who she really is. Jess is just going too much for the "wounded deer in the headlights" thing, and it's exacerbating all the shortcomings in the dialogue.... when the type of thing Dickson used to do would go along way to defusing it... because when Jess delivers these lines, she comes across like Jill is TRULY feeling this way, while Dickson's bitchy aloofness would come across as "I'm saying these things... but I don't really feel this way, I'm just trying to fu*k with all these people because I get off on screwing with their heads".

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I can't say that I disagree. JW is playing Jill in one mode: angry, screaming, nut-job. There are no subtle performances with JW, anymore. Jill was more of an unrepentant schemer, not a scene chewing monster. I still think she had the line of a lifetime with the 'tassles' comment to Nikki. I

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Marcy Rylan is doing a good job, but I just can't like Abby. She's reminds me of Chloe, a character who's considered fun but she's vapid and shallow. If Daniel/Abby is going to happen then Micheal Grazeidei needs to shave and cut his hair. He looks like Chester the Molester.

It doesn't really seem like she's playing Abby, or any character beyond generic rich bimbo #23. That means once this gimmick stuff wears off, what's left for her? Probably being raped by the psycho of the month.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble here... and don't get me wrong, I LOVE Jess and the way she acts, but she DOES hold a bit of resposbility for Jill seeming as pathetic and desperate as she is right now. I hold the writing at fault for about 80 percent of it, especially with lines like "all my life I never felt like I fit in"... but Jess COULD play AGAINST the writing and not make Jill appear to be so pathetic by having her raw emotions so close to the surface.

I'm not sure she could. Keep in mind that Paul Rauch told the press he was telling Jess Walton how she is supposed to act. That means she might have to do what they want her to do, or else.

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I don't agree with her diva antics or the way she saw her character, but Brenda Dickson would have drove Maria's ass crazy until they were forced to recast with FOM Mel Harris. Jess needs the job. Glad she's here. Not happy with the way her character is getting dicked over.

The odd thing is I think they are pretty much writing for Brenda Dickson...or their idea of Brenda Dickson's Jill anyway. A lot of their non-stories for Jill seem like something Brenda would have been better suited for, like her going back to filing nails. Basically a glammed down, degraded version of Brenda's Jill.

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I hadn't heard that Rauch was telling Walton how Jill should behave and react. Gee, wondered how she managed to win fans over without him? Why is he uniquely suited to know Jill better than the actress who plays her? Unreal.

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