So this clip is probably from 1989 then?

I get confused about Tatum because IMDB lists other dates for her beyond 1989.

So this clip is probably from 1989 then?

I get confused about Tatum because IMDB lists other dates for her beyond 1989.

Her IMDb is currently just reading a general "1989" for Loving - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0851367/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

It was probably mistaken before, and got corrected. It happens.

Since Chip posts scenes in order I think Tatum maybe came back in 1991 and subbed after Tudor returned or they had her date wrong in IMDB and it was always 1991

Edited August 4, 201312 yr by John

I don't think that's the case. As I said above, in the scene with Tatum (who looks so much like Tudor), Gwyn references Rick as going away. Rick was killed off in July 1990 so the scene with Tatum has to pre-date his murder.

Since Chip posts scenes in order I think Tatum maybe came back in 1991 and subbed after Tudor returned or they had her date wrong in IMDB and it was always 1991

A December 1989 Digest talks more about Marianne Tatum taking over as Gwyn. She had to fill in because Christine Tudor had a ruptured appendix.

Bumping for relevance

John, I watched Loving daily for pretty much its entire run. I know for sure Tatum didn't come back in 1991, that she only subbed the one stint in '89. Chip Albers evidently isn't (at least not correctly, even if he thinks he is) posting his scenes as Curtis in chronological order.

The medical reason DC just re-posted totally rings a bell. Tudor left the show at the end of her contract not long at all after she came back from that temporary leave, and that's when Savage took over as Gwen. I recall that rotation of Gwens caught me off guard!

John, I watched Loving daily for pretty much its entire run. I know for sure Tatum didn't come back in 1991, that she only subbed the one stint in '89. Chip Albers evidently isn't (at least not correctly, even if he thinks he is) posting his scenes as Curtis in chronological order.

The medical reason DC just re-posted totally rings a bell. Tudor left the show at the end of her contract not long at all after she came back from that temporary leave, and that's when Savage took over as Gwen. I recall that rotation of Gwens caught me off guard!

Thanks

How long was Savage Gwyn and when did Leslie Dentison fill in as Gwyn?

Edited August 5, 201312 yr by John

Savage played Gwyn for two years. She was let go in favor of Tudor coming back to the role. I think Savage was quite a good recast, but while she was definitely adept at playing up the campy / catty / ruthless traits of Gwyneth, she ultimately lacked Tudor's levels of depth and sophistication.

I recall Leslie Deniston also being toward the end of Tudor's first stint, maybe a few months before Tatum. You'd never mistake her for the character visually or through mannerisms. Save for her shorter hair (at the time), Tatum looked & spoke much like Tudor. Denniston was good for a temp, but seemed a little more like an older version of Ava than she did Gwyneth. Her stay was very, very brief, though - maybe just a couple of days.

Edited August 6, 201312 yr by YurSoakinginit

Sorry its in another language but here is Nicole Tarantini as Y&R's Mac in 2001

http://youtu.be/CO7-XxzjyPQ

Michelle Holgate as Passions Jessica in 2002

Starting at 15:47

Starting at :18

She looks more like a Rachel recast than a Donna

I'm surprised to hear you say that- I thought she mimicked Anna Stuart's Donna nearly flawlessly! I don't see any resemblance to Vicky Wyndham's Rachel whatsoever.

I'm surprised to hear you say that- I thought she mimicked Anna Stuart's Donna nearly flawlessly! I don't see any resemblance to Vicky Wyndham's Rachel whatsoever.

Are you talking about Philece Sampler?

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by cassadine1991

Are you talking about Philece Sampler?

Nope Sophia Landon Geier

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by John

I'm surprised to hear you say that- I thought she mimicked Anna Stuart's Donna nearly flawlessly! I don't see any resemblance to Vicky Wyndham's Rachel whatsoever.

I agree, juniorz1. She copied Stuart's style very well, and did not resemble Wyndham at all, even Wyndham's Justine or her later English affectations. I never saw these scenes, and watching them now, I must say Sofia never looked better. Her hair is a vast improvement over that permed mop she wore as Diane on Guiding Light.

By the way, to the other poster, Sofia's last name is Geier.

Richard Council as a temp Hal recast. I'd never seen him. He's OK, not that good. Don't like the Supercuts hair. I wonder what happened with Ben. Looks like he was in at least two episodes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqG4tOZgYac&lc=MGjV2NiqG4PhDW118EiCvTHzKFQPVdOV5OOC0g4TIVc

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0183573/

Richard Council, like Sofia Landon Geier, was an interesting recast. Both had appeared on their soaps in previous roles. This aspect of daytime soaps is one thing I find charming. Council had played Ari Triandos, husband to Tom Hughes' ex-wife Natalie. I suppose this was before John Hilner regularly subbed for Hendrickson. Ben Hendrickson was a tough one to replace. On the surface, there was nothing extraordinarily unique about him, but nobody could quite capture Hal as he did. Of all the replacements, I liked Hilner the best, but even he was not exactly right for the role. I am glad ATWT chose to kill Hal off following Hendrickson's death. It was the right move, one I wish other soaps would have followed.